Republicans Cut Pay for Servers and Bartenders

[bill]

What they do not like is the abuse that goes on in the system.

The Federal government cannot and is not the arbiter of what is fair.

Yeah, lets also do away with traffic lights, because some people run them......besides it's not fair that the government gets to decide who and when someoe should stop at an intersection. 

So what is enough? How much of my rights(money) do I have to give up?

[FayeforCure]

What they do not like is the abuse that goes on in the system.

The Federal government cannot and is not the arbiter of what is fair.

Yeah, lets also do away with traffic lights, because some people run them......besides it's not fair that the government gets to decide who and when someoe should stop at an intersection. 

So what is enough? How much of my rights(money) do I have to give up?

You are not giving up anything...........you are contributing to society so the government can buy our traffic lights (so to speak), and we all are safer for it. 


As long as you are not paying more than other comparable civilized societies, I wouldn't worry.

[KenFSU]

Are we ignoring the fact that the bill had democratic support as well, particularly from Bill Montford, who cast a Yes vote?

Just checking.

[bill]

What they do not like is the abuse that goes on in the system.

The Federal government cannot and is not the arbiter of what is fair.

Yeah, lets also do away with traffic lights, because some people run them......besides it's not fair that the government gets to decide who and when someoe should stop at an intersection. 

So what is enough? How much of my rights(money) do I have to give up?

You are not giving up anything...........you are contributing to society so the government can buy our traffic lights (so to speak), and we all are safer for it. 


As long as you are not paying more than other comparable civilized societies, I wouldn't worry.

If it is money I have given that I cannot use I have certainly given up the right to use it. If I have to perform a procedure for free that I usually get payed for I lose that right. What is enough?

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Let's try this again, and we'll start at the beginning:

As always Republicans are intent on killing the little guy, even as we barely have a middle class any more.

For a socialist, you seem a little too pre-occupied about the whole class thing, it's unhealthy.  Life will never be fair.  Some people will always make more and have more opportunities, some will have less. 

Most young servers and bartender actually ARE in school, but now have to drop out of school because their pay will no longer be enough--------> hence the dumbing down of America

I really feel sorry for my daughter who is a server while she works on becoming a lawyer.

Why are you allowing her to subject herself to such inhumane and barbaric treatment?  She should apply at the Gold Club.  I know several girls there who are working there way through law school, too.  I don't know what their minimum wage is, but most are driving nicer cars.     (PM me, I'll forward their #s)

Everyone looses. It's a race to the bottom..........exploiting our servers......making them work more hours for the same pay, so they can kiss any type of schooling they might be pursuing goodbye, and stay permanently stuck in an underclass.

Decreasing menu prices, or restaurant owners just pocketing more profits.........what do you think will happen?

I already know.

Tell her to get out now, while she can or she's going to have to kiss that attorney schooling goodbye.  And just out of curiousity, how many restaurant owners ARE the middle class that employ these 100s of servers?  Not every restaurant is operated by Darden, and not every owner of a franchise is a millionaire.

people have to earn their stripes first. 

Yup, and it builds character to make it harder and harder to earn your stripes.

Who needs economic security anyway?

Why are Republicans intent on making things harder and harder for the little guy, while going overboard with protecting mega-corporations?

How far must this race to the bottom go?

This entire thread has been about servers and minimum wage.  Personally, if you're worried about making minimum wage you're really not trying to accomplish anything useful.  I read it here somewhere, maybe we should push to have minimum wage raised to about $60/hr - it would really help me out and I would probably be less disagreeable over the whole situation.  There's no race.  It's life. 

[civil42806]

What they do not like is the abuse that goes on in the system.

The Federal government cannot and is not the arbiter of what is fair.

Yeah, lets also do away with traffic lights, because some people run them......besides it's not fair that the government gets to decide who and when someoe should stop at an intersection. 

So what is enough? How much of my rights(money) do I have to give up?

You are not giving up anything...........you are contributing to society so the government can buy our traffic lights (so to speak), and we all are safer for it. 


As long as you are not paying more than other comparable civilized societies, I wouldn't worry.

If it is money I have given that I cannot use I have certainly given up the right to use it. If I have to perform a procedure for free that I usually get payed for I lose that right. What is enough?

Bill did you protest when Bush led us into a three trillion dollar war that was funded by debt?

Did you speak out when he bailed out the banks in the last months of his administration?

Did you start voting democrat when Reagan tripled the national debt?

Did you demand better accountability and some demonstrable proof that cutting a trillion dollars in taxes from america's wealthiest individuals would result in a better economy?

Republicans ran up more than 3/4s of the present national deficity, which requires 15 percent of the entire national budget, just so that we can pay the interest on it every year.

Did you vote to stop this disaster in the making?

Are you doing everything in your power to drive the republicans responsible for the reckless spending of your tax money out of office? 

If you arent, then I guess you havent really had enough of your income taken by these idiots.

wait wait, I thought you were a reagan republican stephen?

[BridgeTroll]

I just think this discussion has gotten too complicated.  Regardless of whether a given server makes $20K a year or $100K a year under the current scenario, if they work a full 40 hour week, they're going to make about $2,000 less annually if the bill goes through. 

And I don't know anybody, regardless of income level, that would be cheerful about a $2,000 a year paycut.

Based on the high quality service I have always received at your establishments I can only assume that you do not pay your staff minimum wage but well above it.  I assume you do this to hire and keep the best and most highly motivated staff.  Minimum wage is just that... the minimum required by law.  Like many professions the cream rises to the top... a good server not satisfied with the pay and quality of service being delivered at restaurant "A" will seek better pay and opportunity at a place like yours.  This is a good thing...

[Dog Walker]

So Stephen, now that you have given up on the Republicans economic agenda does that mean that you only support their current social agenda?     

Knowing you, I know you don't.  You need to start calling yourself a "Hog-on-Ice Independent" like I do.  Let's start the Hog On Ice Party and have a big ol' razorback as our emblem to join the asses and the hephalumps.

[bill]

What they do not like is the abuse that goes on in the system.

The Federal government cannot and is not the arbiter of what is fair.

Yeah, lets also do away with traffic lights, because some people run them......besides it's not fair that the government gets to decide who and when someoe should stop at an intersection. 

So what is enough? How much of my rights(money) do I have to give up?

You are not giving up anything...........you are contributing to society so the government can buy our traffic lights (so to speak), and we all are safer for it. 


As long as you are not paying more than other comparable civilized societies, I wouldn't worry.

If it is money I have given that I cannot use I have certainly given up the right to use it. If I have to perform a procedure for free that I usually get payed for I lose that right. What is enough?

Bill did you protest when Bush led us into a three trillion dollar war that was funded by debt?

I did not sit in a park and smoke pot and piss on cop cars but have always urged fiscal responsibility with all pols. Bush 5 million in 8 years=bad Barry 5mm in 3 years =worse

Did you speak out when he bailed out the banks in the last months of his administration?

Yes and it was a mistake. Barry has compounded it

Did you start voting democrat when Reagan tripled the national debt?

No he got the country started again which lead to more taxpayers which Clinton got to enjoy

Did you demand better accountability and some demonstrable proof that cutting a trillion dollars in taxes from america's wealthiest individuals would result in a better economy?

Since they do not help the economy why not take all their money. Give it to all those non-producers and it will run the government for a few months

Republicans ran up more than 3/4s of the present national deficity, which requires 15 percent of the entire national budget, just so that we can pay the interest on it every year.

This was wrong then and now Barry is doubling down on stupidity

Did you vote to stop this disaster in the making?

I did what I could but you pinkos still elected Barry.

Are you doing everything in your power to drive the republicans responsible for the reckless spending of your tax money out of office?

Yes I did. 

If you arent, then I guess you havent really had enough of your income taken by these idiots.

[bill]

Bill, you seriously don't really understand either how our budget works, or how badly the Republicans screwed all of us, both fiscally and financially.  If you would like some research material to inform yourself on these Republican Deficits and the devastating effect that they are having on all of us, then I will be glad to point you in the right direction.

The Democrats restructured welfare and have been responsible for the largest cuts in spending in history.

The Republicans, on the other hand not only ran up the deficit, but refused to allow americans to pay for it at the least expensive rate----direct taxation.

Instead they borrowed trillions and trillions of dollars from the Chinese and other foreign powers at steep interest rates so that Americans will be forced to pay double that amount in interest before the debts are retired.

Nice move.

In order to save a few dollars in tax revenue now (for the wealthy only, mind you) they committed us to decades of interest payments above and beyond what it would have cost us to finance it ourselves.

And you think Barak Obama is the problem?

Wow.

Suffice it to say I can walk circles around you on any issue. I acknowledged that what the Reps have done is not good. What Barry is doing is worse. That you think we can tax our way out of this shows what a light weight you are.

[bill]

Well I wholly agree with you that you can probably walk around and around in circles, Bill.

You have demonstrated it perfectly.

Sorry did not have time to hit spell check. Out trying to do my share so we can give it to the non producers

[FayeforCure]

This entire thread has been about servers and minimum wage.  Personally, if you're worried about making minimum wage you're really not trying to accomplish anything useful.  I read it here somewhere, maybe we should push to have minimum wage raised to about $60/hr - it would really help me out and I would probably be less disagreeable over the whole situation.  There's no race.  It's life.

You can have your daughter work at the Gold Club.

A living minimum wage is a really good foundation to a thriving economy........just look at all those western European nations that are doing quite well.

Yup that stop phrase: "that's life"

Nobody is served by exploitation..........and don't give we that crap about supply and demand......the invisible hand.......as an economist I know that simplistic model doesn't work in a complex society, yet it is used to let the masses believe in laisez faire exploitative nonsense.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

This entire thread has been about servers and minimum wage.  Personally, if you're worried about making minimum wage you're really not trying to accomplish anything useful.  I read it here somewhere, maybe we should push to have minimum wage raised to about $60/hr - it would really help me out and I would probably be less disagreeable over the whole situation.  There's no race.  It's life.

You can have your daughter work at the Gold Club.

A living minimum wage is a really good foundation to a thriving economy........just look at all those western European nations that are doing quite well.

Yup that stop phrase: "that's life"

Nobody is served by exploitation..........and don't give we that crap about supply and demand......the invisible hand.......as an economist I know that simplistic model doesn't work in a complex society, yet it is used to let the masses believe in laisez faire exploitative nonsense.

Must be why you're such an advocate for minimum wage rights....  I guess if that's all you ever desire to achieve then someone needs to fight on your behalf.  Kind of an oxymoron isn't it... complex minimum achievers.

[BridgeTroll]

inhumane and barbaric!

A banker left a 1% tip in defiance of 'the 99%' at a Newport Beach restaurant the other week, according to his dining companion and underling who snapped a photo of the receipt and posted it to his blog, Future Ex Banker. (Update: the blog is now offline.)

In posting the photo, the employee gave some background on his boss and the receipt:



Mention the “99%” in my boss’ presence and feel his wrath. So proudly does he wear his 1% badge of honor that he tips exactly 1% every time he feels the server doesn’t sufficiently bow down to his Holiness. Oh, and he always makes sure to include a “tip” of his own.

The "tip" of his own in this case was to tell the server to "get a real job." Pleasant.




The whistleblower's Future Ex-Banker blog (now offline) included additional background on his boss, and some insight into why he would out his gross behavior, likely resulting in an employment status of current ex-banker:

I work in the corporate office of a major bank for a boss who represents everything wrong with the financial industry: blatant disregard and outright contempt for everyone and everything he deems beneath him. On top of that, he’s a complete and utter tool. At the same time, I’m still cashing paychecks, an admittedly willingâ€"albeit reluctantâ€"cog in the wheel of this increasingly ugly industry, so I’ve created this blog as a confessional of sorts. It won’t entirely clear my conscience, but hopefully it’ll help. I’m sure I’ll get fired eventually. Until then, enjoy.

UPDATE: In a conversation with the Huffington Post, Mike Wilcox, the vice president of operations for True Food Kitchen, gave some insight into how the company was treating the incident since the receipt began receiving attention online. Wilcox said that the restaurant was "absolutely" treating the receipt as real, but to confirm its authenticity for certain, they were in the process of tracking down both the physical receipt at the restaurant and the computer-generated copy in their credit card system.

"The first thing we're going to do is to make sure the server is taken care of," Wilcox said, "and make sure the server wasn't treated badly or insufficiently tipped." He explained that they would be asking Breanna, the server named on the receipt, if she recalled the table and how her service was. "If her service was up to the level" they assume their employees would deliver, Wilcox said, "they would do everything they can to make it up to her somehow." Referring to online comments posted about the receipt, Wilcox remarked, "people are asking us to ban the person from the restaurant -- if more information came through on who the person is I first would love to talk to him."

UPDATE II: As many have noted, a true 1% tip correctly rounded to the nearest penny would have been $1.34, leaving this tip just shy of that threshold, mathematically speaking.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/24/banker-1-percent-tip-receipt_n_1299280.html

An update...

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/02/27/wealthy-banker-leaves-one-percent-tip-nasty-note-for-waitress-in-newport-beach/

Restaurant Calls Photo Of Banker’s 1 Percent Tip, ‘Get A Real Job’ Message A Hoax

NEWPORT BEACH (CBS) â€" A wealthy banker set off public outrage after he allegedly followed up a $133 meal by leaving his waitress a one percent tip and a personal tip â€" “Get a real job”. But the restaurant where it supposedly happened said it is all a hoax.

According to Huffington Post, CNN and several other news sites, a person claiming to be an employee of the “wealthy” banker took a photo of the receipt and posted it on a blog, “Future Ex-Banker”. The blogger paired the photo with their own caption:

“Mention the ’99 percent’ in my boss’ presence and feel his wrath. So proudly does he wear his 1 percent badge of honor that he tips exactly 1 percent every time he feels the server doesn’t sufficiently bow down to his Holiness. Oh, and he always makes sure to include a ‘tip’ of his own.”

The blogger surmised that the post would probably mean losing his or her job. Not surprisingly, soon after the blog started getting a lot of public attention it was taken down.

The post set off a hailstorm of online comments that touched on the 1% vs. 99% class warfare embodied by the Occupy movement.

The Huffington Post posted a correction to their story, indicating that the restaurant called the blog’s photo “altered and exaggerated”.

The restaurant told CBS2/KCAL9 that they have been receiving hundreds of phone calls and e-mails from people outraged over the reported story. They have confirmed that the receipt was changed and that the original receipt lists the meal as just over $30, with a 20 percent tip and no message aimed at the waitress.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Still doing my part to make it a better world, Faye.  You're still.............  complaining?  BTW, we were seated and gone in less than an hour, so that's $9.17 for 40 minutes and we weren't her only customer.