Mother sues CSX over trestle death of her son

[Driven1]

Adding to this case is the newly uncovered fact that a nearly identical death happened at this very site 20 YEARS ago. In that case, the group of boys on the train had apparently been drinking.

Talks with Clay County Deputy E. W Howell confirmed that none of the boys had been consuming alcohol in this case, but merely fishing.

This is directly contrary to what an extremely reliable source tells me the T-U uncovered in their investigation.  With all due respect to the Deputy, he is not an investigator or detective and blood results may not even be back yet.  I surely hope there was no alcohol involved.  If there was, it would further impact the decision-making abilities of the victim and increase the level of his negligent behavior.  Let's all pray this was not the case.

And let's all remember that we are just merely outsiders speculating on a lot of this.  And that our individual opinions really don't mean $hit.

[gatorback]

FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION is to RR as the FTSB is to aviation.  The FRA will look at the box.

[second_pancake]

Well then lets get rid of traffic lights on city streets and fences around electrical transformers while we are at it.

That way we can thin the city population out by making sure the slow witted are killed early and often.

That actually doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

[Driven1]

Well then lets get rid of traffic lights on city streets and fences around electrical transformers while we are at it.

That way we can thin the city population out by making sure the slow witted are killed early and often.

That actually doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

lol.  yep, maybe this could derail us off the tracks to an Idiocracy.  pardon the pun. 

[Driven1]

FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION is to RR as the FTSB is to aviation.  The FRA will look at the box.

i think the FRA should come to this site and read all these posts and try to figure out what REALLY happened. 

[Ocklawaha]

Gatorback, the FRA will hear about it, but the NTSB will do the black box drill.

Well then lets get rid of traffic lights on city streets and fences around electrical transformers while we are at it. That way we can thin the city population out by making sure the slow witted are killed early and often.

CSX opted at the time of the last tragedy to put up additional signage along the tracks.

Perhaps 100 signs would take CSX from the Ridiculous to the safety Sublime. Should JEA use 100 fences? Maybe traffic lights with steel doors to close off streets would save lives? Conversly perhaps our local schools are to blame, and little "Johnny" simply needs to learn to read. Another thought is why not take "Operation Life Saver" into every local school at every grade level and make it REQUIRED. This railroad sponsored program usually includes the ruins of what was once an automobie (on a trailer) and video of trains cutting through Semi-Big Rigs like a hot knife through butter. Kids that see it, are not nearly as likely to play chicken with a train.


Ocklawaha

[gatorback]

How come I hardly ever hear of a car driving off a drawbridge while it was open/up?
The railroad could make their crossing grades that safe if they dropped some bucks on safer gates huh?

[thelakelander]

Gatorback.  Can you post some images of the gates you describe?  I'm having trouble visualizing a scenerio where it would be impossible for a willed trespasser to gain access on a mainline railroad 24 hours/day.

[gatorback]

Sorry lake, I was just saying rr crossing grads using quad gate technology are safter then what you find most cars running and crashing.  You know these puppy's reduce crashes at the crossing but they cost some bucks and the rr would rather not spend the money.  That's all i'm saying.  They could make it safer you know.

[RiversideGator]

Well then lets get rid of traffic lights on city streets and fences around electrical transformers while we are at it.

That way we can thin the city population out by making sure the slow witted are killed early and often.

Looks like Stephen was totally talking out his @$$ as usual, according to Ock (who is a real expert).

Stephen, perhaps if all trains were required to travel at 2 mph everything would be REAL safe.  Of course, then commerce would grind to a halt.  Oh, and we need 12 foot high fences on every street and railroad.  Of course, I have no idea how one would cross these streets then.  Maybe we can all just travel in straight, parallel lines from now on at very slow speeds.  It's for the children.   

[gatorback]

I'm sure if the union had it's way, they'd be back down to 12 MPH.  That would be a lot safer then the bullshit 50 or 60 they go now.  A coal training going 45 MPH so the rr makes more money and the managers get a bigger bounus--give me a break.

[gatorback]

We could build overpasses like they did a univ. blvd and phillips why.  And at Baymeadows., and at..., but then again, that would make things safer and well, with food prices, and oil prices the way they are we just don't need all the competition for our natural resources then huh?

[Driven1]

Well then lets get rid of traffic lights on city streets and fences around electrical transformers while we are at it.

That way we can thin the city population out by making sure the slow witted are killed early and often.

Looks like Stephen was totally talking out his @$$ as usual, according to Ock (who is a real expert).

Stephen, perhaps if all trains were required to travel at 2 mph everything would be REAL safe.  Of course, then commerce would grind to a halt.  Oh, and we need 12 foot high fences on every street and railroad.  Of course, I have no idea how one would cross these streets then.  Maybe we can all just travel in straight, parallel lines from now on at very slow speeds.  It's for the children.  

lol.  "it's for the children."  hilarious!

[thelakelander]

We could build overpasses like they did a univ. blvd and phillips why.  And at Baymeadows., and at..., but then again, that would make things safer and well, with food prices, and oil prices the way they are we just don't need all the competition for our natural resources then huh?

Doesn't the City/State pay for these improvements, as opposed to the railroads.  Nevertheless, how would crossing gates and bridges keep willed trespassers off the tracks (ex. they could walk over or under or behind crossing gates).

[Driven1]

if i was a trial attorney, there is NO WAY i would take this case.  this case would be just BEGGING to sink my practice.  what...with the 43 in a 50, engineer blew the horn, no trespassing signs and the possibility of alcohol in the kid's blood!!