SKYWAY RIDERSHIP DOUBLES...WE TOLD YOU SO JTA!

cline · February 10, 2012, 12:44:20 PM

Quote from: fsujax on February 10, 2012, 12:01:00 PM
Just be outspoken about it. Show up to a Council meeting, attend a JTA meeting.

Falls on deaf ears.

Instead we have the brain trust at JTA telling us about how we should be counting our blessings because they brought us JTB and Dames Point. Until there is a leadership change, we will continue to get the same old crap.

cline · February 10, 2012, 12:46:53 PM

Quote from: thelakelander on February 10, 2012, 12:41:26 PM
The mobility plan's multimodal projects would have never been included if were not for the community's visioning effots and getting those projects added to the TPO's long range master plan.

The sad part is lake, after all the good that was done, it was undermined by a small group of individuals with a vested financial interest. This has pretty much been tradition in Jax. It gets frustrating.

Tacachale · February 10, 2012, 01:01:59 PM

^What's more frustrating to me is when people support a good idea but then don't make their voice heard. It's shocking to me how even civic-minded folks I talk too don't even know who their councilman is, let alone bother to ever contact them about their support or otherwise get involved (or even vote). At the same time, every small-minded cynic is filling every inbox with complaints about how much money we're wasting downtown while there are potholes in the Westside, or how a concert is making too much noise, or how streetcars will be a huge waste in the proportion of the courthouse.

cline · February 10, 2012, 01:07:52 PM

If you don't know who your councilperson is then I wouldn't really consider you civic minded-maybe well intentioned. But to your point, the vocal minority often gets their way

fsujax · February 10, 2012, 01:22:13 PM

sadly, i guess you are right Cline. Nothing will change until "big" changes are made.

cline · February 10, 2012, 01:36:06 PM

Occupy JTA

JeffreyS · February 10, 2012, 03:07:15 PM

I for one have posted here, JaxBusiness journal and the TU site trying to maintain a once a week call out for each on how the council has knowingly betrayed their constituents on the moratorium issue. A tax increase and QOL decrease on all of us just so their insider, GOB developer buddies might be able to afford a little bit more expensive BMW lease.

The worst part is trying to sell to us that the theoretical "Wendy's" they might build is a great boon for Jacksonville. As if Wendy's are only built where there is a Mobility Fee Moratorium not where there is I don't know a good market for burgers.

JeffreyS · February 10, 2012, 03:08:08 PM

I have also emailed each council member about this and was told stop the sabre rattling.

deathstar · February 10, 2012, 05:03:25 PM

This might sound silly, but why don't the cars have sponsors on the side of them with somebody paying JTA money for their name or product to be on there? Would it generate anything worthwhile? We all see FARAH & FARAH on the side of the City Bus or some sort of local lawyer. Why not the skyway cars?

Timkin · February 10, 2012, 11:56:38 PM

Quote from: deathstar on February 10, 2012, 05:03:25 PM
This might sound silly, but why don't the cars have sponsors on the side of them with somebody paying JTA money for their name or product to be on there? Would it generate anything worthwhile? We all see FARAH & FARAH on the side of the City Bus or some sort of local lawyer. Why not the skyway cars?

Great Idea. Therefore JTA probably will not go along with it

Ocklawaha · February 11, 2012, 12:25:27 AM

YES! Advertising in the stations, on the cars and inside the cars.

Here are a couple of concept maps that I feel would be game changers for the Skyway.

tufsu1 · February 11, 2012, 09:25:14 PM

there's no way the Skyway comes south of I-95 into Riverside

Ocklawaha · February 12, 2012, 08:57:20 PM

Just got back from South Florida and saw your comment TUFSU1, I agree with that sentiment and I'd MUCH RATHER turn south on Roselle to Annie Lytle, as a TOD/MINI-TRANSIT HUB. The original plan was to turn onto Roselle and end the route a couple of blocks west of I-10, so it actually stays with the plan. When I did this map (I believe I was in El Retiro, Colombia at the time) I also knew of the static this would get from the RAP/preservation groups. If that route was ever actually considered, you'll note I don't have it going any farther south then the end of the commercial strip. It SHOULD stay out of Riverside/Avondale residential completely.

Timkin · February 13, 2012, 12:21:13 AM

Quote from: Ocklawaha on February 12, 2012, 08:57:20 PM
Just got back from South Florida and saw your comment TUFSU1, I agree with that sentiment and I'd MUCH RATHER turn south on Roselle to Annie Lytle, as a TOD/MINI-TRANSIT HUB. The original plan was to turn onto Roselle and end the route a couple of blocks west of I-10, so it actually stays with the plan. When I did this map (I believe I was in El Retiro, Colombia at the time) I also knew of the static this would get from the RAP/preservation groups. If that route was ever actually considered, you'll note I don't have it going any farther south then the end of the commercial strip. It SHOULD stay out of Riverside/Avondale residential completely.

The Annie Lytle TOD/ Mini Transit Hub remains one of the better choices of a re purpose to the Old School. It is a shame that JTA and the City cannot embrace this idea. Use the building for a TOD/ and some commercial . Its a win-win for Annie and the Skyway.

jcjohnpaint · February 13, 2012, 07:34:34 AM

I don't know how much of the structure was destroyed in the fire, but I think it would be cool to look at SCAD's new reuse of the old train station in a museum. Part of the building is the museum and the destroyed part became a exposed wall seating area and garden- also cool for a farmers market or something. I guess the end is never the end with a little creativity. Here is a pretty cool video on the project.
http://www.scadmoa.org/