SKYWAY RIDERSHIP DOUBLES...WE TOLD YOU SO JTA!

[fsujax]

JTA has been considering making the Skyway free for a couple of years now. It didnt just come about with the STAR card. IF you people want to keep it free then you need to let your elected officials know!

[cline]

All of the elected officials hate the Skyway.  It is pretty much taboo.

[fsujax]

some do hate it. Others are indifferent.

[cline]

And that is the reason it will not be extended.  It has no supporters, just those against and those that don't care.

[mtraininjax]

Romney's 1 percent make up most of the riders.

[Timkin]

Romney's 1 percent make up most of the riders.

umm... what ?

[Keith-N-Jax]

Also, if the skyway stays free how will JTA get money to extend it other parts of DT?

capital and operating are separate pots of money.






THANKS!

[duvaldude08]

All of the elected officials hate the Skyway.  It is pretty much taboo.

I cant agree that ALL elected officials hate it. The only thing JTA said that made sense about the skyway  is this. Is hard to plan on extending it, when downtown does not even have a redevelopment plan in place. Once our new downtown vision unfolds, the new administration needs to tap JTA and they need to work together to have the Skyway intergrated into the downtown redevelopment plan. That's part of what make the Miami Mover successful, which is also free BTW. It is intergrated into alot of their projects downtown.  In the meantime, an extention to riverside ave and to the sports district is a new brainier JTA has been sitting on for a very long time.

[Ocklawaha]

Since we've been talking about routes for the Skyway, I'd like to toss in a zinger that I think would become quite popular especially with the lunch crowd and downtown residents.

Extend the line due west of the current stop at Jacksonville Terminal (aka: The Prime Osborn) duck under the freeway with the rest of the railroad tracks, then up and over the railroad yard coming down to a station at the Farmers Market (on or over Beaver Street), then in a later phase on west down Beaver to Stockton, King, and McDuff Street stations. Such a route would be fairly short, straight, and would tap lots of residential, office and industrial job centers tying them in with the best produce marketplace, restaurants, and the downtown crowd.

"Once I built a railroad, I made it run, made it race against time.
Once I built a railroad; now it's done. Brother, can you spare a dime?"

SOURCE: Depression era song by Jay Gorney 1931

OCKLAWAHA

[duvaldude08]

I like I like. So basically have it take the old street care route?

[cline]

Since we've been talking about routes for the Skyway, I'd like to toss in a zinger that I think would become quite popular especially with the lunch crowd and downtown residents.

Extend the line due west of the current stop at Jacksonville Terminal (aka: The Prime Osborn) duck under the freeway with the rest of the railroad tracks, then up and over the railroad yard coming down to a station at the Farmers Market (on or over Beaver Street), then in a later phase on west down Beaver to Stockton, King, and McDuff Street stations. Such a route would be fairly short, straight, and would tap lots of residential, office and industrial job centers tying them in with the best produce marketplace, restaurants, and the downtown crowd.

"Once I built a railroad, I made it run, made it race against time.
Once I built a railroad; now it's done. Brother, can you spare a dime?"

SOURCE: Depression era song by Jay Gorney 1931

OCKLAWAHA

They had a similar trolley route that did this (Beaver Street Route).  Not sure if they still have it or what the ridership is.

[exnewsman]

They had a similar trolley route that did this (Beaver Street Route).  Not sure if they still have it or what the ridership is.
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http://www.jtafla.com/Schedules/06.21.11/BeaverStTrolley.pdf

[cline]

They had a similar trolley route that did this (Beaver Street Route).  Not sure if they still have it or what the ridership is.

http://www.jtafla.com/Schedules/06.21.11/BeaverStTrolley.pdf
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Yeah, I saw that schedule on the website also.  But JTA doesn't have the best track record with keeping the website up  to date which is why I put the disclaimer on there.  In fact (just to highlight the ineptitude) one of the links I clicked on for the Beaver Street Trolley route brought up a pamphlet for the Bay Street Trolley route.

[tufsu1]

the problem with the beaver St trolley is that it basically only runs once an hour...and from what I hear, JTA has been discussing eliminating it

[Dapperdan]

I rode the skyway on lunch yesterday. It was full both ways on my stop and there was actually a line of people waiting to get on the train at Central Station.  On a side note, We really need to have JTA give their workers customer service lessons. There was an older JTA worker riding the skyway car and  on his walkie, he asked control to shut the doors on another train stalled on the other side of the station that appeard to not be moving. The guy beside me was really amazed and was asking him questions  like: "Can the  they really clsoe the doors remotely?"  All he got was an abrupt yes. The JTA worker didn't even turn around to address him. Of course the guy stopped asking questions and just looked out the window the rest of the ride. What a neat opportunity for JTA to explain to an enthusiastic newbie how  it all worked and maybe get him excited about the skyway, but no.