Pele's Wood Fire - Park and King

[Captain Zissou]

dude...a 10" pizza at Olive Garden costs $10 these days

Only you would know that.

[ben says]

dude...a 10" pizza at Olive Garden costs $10 these days

In a city with a thriving and growing food scene, going to Olive Garden should be an abomination. Take your $10 elsewhere.

[tufsu1]

fine...I'll leave it be....my lack of knowledge guiding me to the conclusion that all-natural ingredients logically might cost more than those from Sysco is clearly misplaced.

But I can tell you that the folks who opened this establishment also have a background in the food industry....and I assume they have a strategy and specific market they are catering too....

if that's not the case, then their business may fail....like many others in the food industry.

[urbanlibertarian]

Based on ingredients alone the beer should never command $5 prices, especially not the red ale.  A stout, maybe.  The Magnum P Rye, of course.

Apparently this is not going to be the type of place that will try to bring customers in with low beer prices.  We''ll see if they've correctly judged what the market is for they will offer.

[Captain Zissou]

Based on ingredients alone the beer should never command $5 prices, especially not the red ale.  A stout, maybe.  The Magnum P Rye, of course.

Apparently this is not going to be the type of place that will try to bring customers in with low beer prices.  We''ll see if they've correctly judged what the market is for they will offer.

I could sell you a Camry for $90,000 but it wouldn't make it a better car.  They could charge $15 for a 1901, but it still wouldn't be a great beer.  If you're going to charge $5 for a beer, make it something worth the money.  You could still stay local, charge $5, deliver a better product, and still make the customers happy. 

[cline]

Out of curiosity, how much does Kickback's charge for a pint of Bold City?

[tufsu1]

Is a Lexus ES better than the Camry....does it have better quality products (leather, sound system, etc.)...if not, why do they charge more for basically the same car?

[iluvolives]

Seasons 52 sells their flat breads for $10+ and while I haven't eaten at Pele's yet I would imagine from the reviews of the food and from seeing the quality work they put into the building that they are planning to provide an equivalent, likely better, pizza/atmosphere and it is thankfully not a chain and not at the towncenter.

Compared to the other things at Park/King it might seem overpriced, but I would say that is comparing apples to oranges. If the food is done well it will likely be more comparable to the experience a person has at Town or Orsay and most people know going in that they are going to pay more and are okay with it.

Although, I'd be really happy if they offered an awesome HH they way they do at Orsay.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

They could charge $15 for a 1901, but it still wouldn't be a great beer.

Verging on blasphemy....

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I don't care if you're making the mozzarella by hand, the dough fresh everyday, and the sauce is simmered for 5 days straight. No Neopolitan pizza, of that size, should cost $10. Same reason I stopped buying their pies at RAM...appetizer portion, entree price.

Well let a guy that is not in the restaurant industy try and justify spending a few coins everytime he goes out rather than eating in.

Tonight's menu at the NRW home for myself and mini-me:  Fettuccine w/ Italian Sausage and a Creamy Tomato Sauce, Garden Salad & Adult/Kid Beverages

From the Winn Dixie receipt:  Fettuccine - 1.89, Pint Cream - 2.89, Mozz Chz (8oz) - 9.99, Premio Hot Italian Sausage - 5.99, Yellow Onion - 1.04, Tomato (Cluster) - 3.94, Garlic (Bulk) - 1.19, Broccoli (Bunch) - 2.69, Cava Brut (2) - 25.98, Welch's Sparkling Grape Juice - 2.99

This totals out to $58.59.  I didn't include the olive oil, mushrooms, celery, carrots, butter, salt, pepper, dried herbs and time spent making it that I already had at the house.  So safe to say I'll spend about 45 minutes and use another $10 of ingredients.   So I'm at $70 and I still have to clean the kitchen, well, mini-me will get to clean the kitchen. 

Maybe I should have gone out tonight. 



Before you gripe at what a restaurant charges, you should try making it yourself.

[north miami]

I know that almost everyone actively posting in this thread is either a restaurant owner/chef/kitchen person, or has a background

I have a background with Jane at Partners....


not everyone,this one simply a customer,student of Shoppes of Avondale..........and....let me think hard....oh yea,Crustaceans/Ragtimes and who here understands the '/' connection??

I predict a Restaurant Bubble.

locally produced $6 pint just one of many absurdity

Or no butter at The Fox dashes Jacksonville image for the visitor from Naples.
thank you Ian for no knock down drag out Fox expansion.Who here remembers the days of cigar smoke at the Fox?Those were the days Ian was working at Biscottis.
we have experienced some credible advances.why not now the proverbial bubble?


sorry,we're closed

[tufsu1]

I'm still waiting to hear what places like Kickbacks charge for local beers like Bold City and Intuition....regular prices, not happy hour.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

You'll be surprised (not really) that the prices are.......   $5/pint

Unbelievable!!!

Next on the menu - IAW - are $4 ea. at IAW - AMAZING!

If no one's guessed it yet, I'd say prices are based upon what one can get most of the time without complaint.  Absurd you say.....  Not really, unless you believe that the tenderloin from Longhorn ($21) comes from a different cow than a tenderloin from Ruth Chris ($48)....

[thelakelander]

They may come from the same cow but Ruth Chris is doing some voodoo or something that makes theirs taste a lot better.

[Kickbackssteve]

Tufsu1/cline, at Kickbacks the prices we charge for each draft beer is generally 4$ more than the cost of the liquid in the glass.  (its different for Yuengling, Bud Light, Ultra and Miller Lite)  That said, the liquid in most glasses of craft beer costs 1$ or so, and generally we would charge $4.95 for said craft beer.  If the liquid costs us 5$, we charge $8.95 for the glass.  All of our draft beers are sold for 1$ cheaper during our happy hours.

Generally the price we pay for kegs of craft beer from all over this country is the same as the price we pay for a keg of beer from the local brewerys.  (usually $135-$140 for a half barrel) (124 pints). Interestingly, kegs from Intuition and Bold City have to travel across the city to a distributers warehouse before they come back to within half a mile from where they started.  Damn three tiered system!