Jags vs. Texans Reactions

[duvaldude08]

I largely agree with most of what you guys are saying, but I also think it's worth reinforcing the fact that this team has honestly kept some of these games closer than they had any right being, and is very much a work in progress. Three biggest problems are obviously 1) Coaching, 2) the offensive line, and 3) constant missed opportunities (repeated dropped balls by receivers, red zone futility, fumbles, constant burnt time outs due to miscommunication, the now-comical weekly penalty for too many players on the field, etc.

If this team could just find a way to tighten the strings a bit (which would almost have to necessitate a new head coach), a lot of these problems might be correctable.

I think BG has a ton of potential, I just hope he doesn't fall victim to the Kwayme Brown/Darko Milicic curse of too much pressure too soon permanently destroying a player's confidence.

On the bright side, he's still having a better season than Tim Tebow

I agree. We actually should be 4-4 right now. Weve made ALOT of mistakes that are just un-excusable. Im not too worried about Gabbert. I just want a QB that is servicable ( kinda like big ben) and a balanced and efficent offensive line. With the D-line we have now, we could go a long way with a medicore-Okay offense.

Ps. Draft Tebow! Draft Tebow! If he caved playing that much against the Lions, he would have been laid out on the field with our schedule

[Keith-N-Jax]

Careful what you say DD^^ when I think of servicable I think of Garrad not Big Ben, were hoping Gabbert is more like Brady or P.Manning or Rogers for that matter.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

On the bright side, he's still having a better season than Tim Tebow

What?  You didn't read anything like this about Gabbert in the FTU?    (quotes excerpted, link follows)

• If you must hit bottom before you can appreciate the ride to the top, then this game put Tebow halfway there. Tebow wasn't nearly as wild as he was for 3 1/2 quarters last week in Miami, but a missed target is a missed target.


• The Lions are 6-2 with a proven franchise quarterback. The Broncos are 2-5 with serious questions about their quarterback.


• Still, if the Tebow Train has not derailed after his second start this season, and fifth of his NFL career, the brakes are screeching.

and my personal favorite and probably most damning...

• "You can be as competitive and have as much heart as possible, but if you don't have the talent for this league, it's hard to play," said Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey​.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19228710

[duvaldude08]

Careful what you say DD^^ when I think of servicable I think of Garrad not Big Ben, were hoping Gabbert is more like Brady or P.Manning or Rogers for that matter.

Youre better than me. I didnt find Garrad servicable. LOL I like middle of the road QB like Ben and Aaron. Their teams are pretty balance. Colts and Partiots are all offense and no defense, and the QB carries the team.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Youre better than me. I didnt find Garrad servicable. LOL I like middle of the road QB like Ben and Aaron. Their teams are pretty balance. Colts and Partiots are all offense and no defense, and the QB carries the team.

Quotes like this make me seriously consider your NFL IQ, DD. 

Aaron who?  Ben what?  Colt offense how?

[Keith-N-Jax]

There you go again all offense, Colts defense plays pretty well especially when they are protecting a lead. Pats defense is not half bad either. And it is a QB driven league. Over the last few yrs I say 4 what do the SB champs have in common? Great QBs.

[Keith-N-Jax]

Maybe he means Colts with Manning, not this yr.

[Jason]

I'm chiming in a bit late here but I have to agree with most of the sentiment.  Our offense is horrible right now.  That is the bottom line, no matter who you blame.

Gabbert doesn't seem to be improving at a rate that should be expected of a first round draft pick.  The O-line has been "OK" against some top defenses, our recievers can't seem to catch anything, and the offense is WAY too predictable.

On a plus note, we did capitalize on two devensive turnovers.

The defense is stout and VERY fun to watch.  I think it has as much to do with the personnel as much as it does the new blitzing schemes and man coverage.  If we could somehow muster up some semblance of offense we could still (puts on teal glasses) have a chance at winning the division.

The short of it is that Gabbert has to improve and the recievers have to catch the f-ing football!!!!

I say let Gabbert air it out for the rest of the season.  Just go for it and make this the opportunity for him to grow as much as possible.  He's a passing quarterback just like Newton and Ponder so treat him like one.  Oh, and stop feeding popcorn to the recieving core in the locker room before games!!

[tufsu1]

Youre better than me. I didnt find Garrad servicable. LOL I like middle of the road QB like Ben and Aaron. Their teams are pretty balance. Colts and Partiots are all offense and no defense, and the QB carries the team.

Quotes like this make me seriously consider your NFL IQ, DD. 

Aaron who?  Ben what?  Colt offense how?

agreed NRW...."middle of the road QB like Aaron Rogers"....huh?

[duvaldude08]

Youre better than me. I didnt find Garrad servicable. LOL I like middle of the road QB like Ben and Aaron. Their teams are pretty balance. Colts and Partiots are all offense and no defense, and the QB carries the team.

Quotes like this make me seriously consider your NFL IQ, DD. 

Aaron who?  Ben what?  Colt offense how?

I just have my own opinion. Nothing to do with NFL IQ. Some QB carry their team and IMO (MY OPINION), thats not good. The colts are a prime example of what can happen if you depend soley on your QB and nothing to supplement it. Their defense has been shady for a long time, however they QB was explosive so it was no big deal. Why do you think everytime we played the colts we would keep up with them? Because their defense couldnt stop a nose bleed. ( and ours couldnt either). I dont care about my opinion an NFL fact, just the way I feel about the situation.

[duvaldude08]

Youre better than me. I didnt find Garrad servicable. LOL I like middle of the road QB like Ben and Aaron. Their teams are pretty balance. Colts and Partiots are all offense and no defense, and the QB carries the team.

Quotes like this make me seriously consider your NFL IQ, DD. 

Aaron who?  Ben what?  Colt offense how?

agreed NRW...."middle of the road QB like Aaron Rogers"....huh?

Okay can I have my own opinions on here? Middle of the road , IN MY OPINION is a QB who is great, not necessiarly Elite (Which I consider Manning and Brady), but they are oustanding and the job done. Geez 

[Shwaz]

I think we all know it's not the most weapon loaded team in the league... but we do have some. I'm not looking for Big Ben magic just maybe not dead last in every category for passing.

For the sake of argument:
No.               Age Pos G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A
18 Manning 22    QB 16 16 3-13-0 326 575 56.7 3739 26 4.5 28 4.9 78 6.5 5.2 11.5 233.7 71.2 22 109 6.1 4.8


He also had an elite RB - Marshall Faulk, but he had something that Gabbert doesn't - one Marvin Harrison.

Not sure what the argument is here?

Let's see how Manning & Gabbert would compare in the important stats and I'll use Gabbert's 7 games as an average for the remaining.

                    18                             11
Comp     326                                       176
ATT        575                                        400
Yards    3739                                       2064
TD's       26                                          11
INT's      28                                          9
Comp%  56.7                                       44%
 

[Shwaz]

Youre better than me. I didnt find Garrad servicable. LOL I like middle of the road QB like Ben and Aaron. Their teams are pretty balance. Colts and Partiots are all offense and no defense, and the QB carries the team.

Quotes like this make me seriously consider your NFL IQ, DD. 

Aaron who?  Ben what?  Colt offense how?

agreed NRW...."middle of the road QB like Aaron Rogers"....huh?

Okay can I have my own opinions on here? Middle of the road , IN MY OPINION is a QB who is great, not necessiarly Elite (Which I consider Manning and Brady), but they are oustanding and the job done. Geez 

No offense to your opinion and all but... Ben has more rings than Manning and no one and I mean NO ONE is playing better than Rogers right now. I'd take him over Brady and Manning.

[duvaldude08]

One positive things, our defense is getting all the props they deserve! Been online today and they keep talking about that play we did Sunday. Cant say they dont "respect" our defense. No we need to get our Offense together.

[ben says]

I'm chiming in a bit late here but I have to agree with most of the sentiment.  Our offense is horrible right now.  That is the bottom line, no matter who you blame.

Gabbert doesn't seem to be improving at a rate that should be expected of a first round draft pick.  The O-line has been "OK" against some top defenses, our recievers can't seem to catch anything, and the offense is WAY too predictable.

On a plus note, we did capitalize on two devensive turnovers.

The defense is stout and VERY fun to watch.  I think it has as much to do with the personnel as much as it does the new blitzing schemes and man coverage.  If we could somehow muster up some semblance of offense we could still (puts on teal glasses) have a chance at winning the division.

The short of it is that Gabbert has to improve and the recievers have to catch the f-ing football!!!!

I say let Gabbert air it out for the rest of the season.  Just go for it and make this the opportunity for him to grow as much as possible.  He's a passing quarterback just like Newton and Ponder so treat him like one.  Oh, and stop feeding popcorn to the recieving core in the locker room before games!!

The question is, why isn't Gabbert improving at a rate that should be expected from a first round pick? Gabbert definitely has the goods. A lot of people had him going higher than number 10 in the draft. The problem is we cut our veteran QB. Gabbert needs a veteran to learn from. He's basically a freshman in college whose getting NO advice from friends, upperclassmen, older brothers, etc. Also, he had no real offseason.

In addition to all that, where's the incentive for the coaching staff to throw everything in the kitchen sink at him? They know the seasons already lost--and with it--their jobs.

Find myself scratching my head asking, "Where could we possibly go from here?"

I fear Gabbert's development may be two seasons long. I wish it wasn't so, but barring a miracle, can't imagine another way.