Five Points Coffee and Spice: One Cup a Week

Started by gsb, September 19, 2011, 06:48:45 PM

gsb

Five Points Coffee and Spice sent this out on Facebook, and I thought I'd bring it to the attention of folks here.  Hope they don't mind.  I really like this little place and would hate to see Starbucks put another independent coffee house out of business, especially one with as much character as this one.

QuoteOne Cup a Week

The Coffee Shop had a close call and many friends pulled together to help but with the state of the economy in our country today the shop is still in danger. Many have asked what can I do? This page is in response to that question. The shop has over 1500 friends on facebook. What is needed is for those friends to make the commitment to buy one cup of coffee a week from Five Points Coffee & Spice Co. If you can buy more, or have your lunch or dinner there or invite a friend or friends that's even better. But at the minimum the shop needs to sell 1500 cups of coffee a week to keep it's doors open. PLEASE DO NOT just click 'like" on this page as we all do on so many other pages. This page is only for those who are willing and able to make the commitment of One Cup a Week. Will you make the commitment to help keep a locally owned and operated business, one that is loved by our community, open and operating in our community? If you will please click "like" and then when you buy your One Cup a Week please post to the wall here with "I bought mine, how about You?" Thank You for your continued love and support!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/One-Cup-a-Week/107385182701435

thekillingwax

Ehhh, I'm not wild about that- it's a business, they shouldn't be begging for money or insisting that customers do anything. And really, isn't this all a bit much? They're asking for what- 250 customers a day?

peestandingup

Thats a lot of coffee to sell a week just to keep the doors open. I wonder why every coffee shop in this space ultimately fails within the first year? What's the rent??

I'd gladly go there once a week to keep them in business. I mostly do anyway because I like the vibe & some of their food is actually pretty decent. I do think the cafes in this space however have sorta half-assed their coffees though. The guy before them (Scribes I believe it was called) didn't have a clue what he was doing. He was using some pre-ground canned garbage.

And while I dig FP Coffee & Spice, let's face it, they don't take it too serious either. They brew with a Mr Coffee for god sake (yes, like the kind you get at Wal-Mart for $20).

I'm just saying, all these places need to up their game if they wanna stay in business & compete with places like Starbucks. Its not enough to just "not be Starbucks", you have to be better than them. On price, on quality & on seriousness. I don't get that vibe anywhere here to be honest.

I do believe however that the new Bold Bean cafe will be bringing some real heat with them when they open this fall. They seem like they've got it together.

tufsu1

on anothe thread, someone pointed out that this place sells coffee for much less than a certain place in Springfield....and now we see the results of that policy.

thekillingwax

The price of coffee doesn't really directly reflect on how successful a business is. McDonald's coffee is cheaper, are they about to go out of business?

Like peestandingup said, they have bigger issues is they need that much money per week just to survive. I've been there twice, the place is nice, the people are friendly but I don't think they really have the drive and focus they need. So many people have started coffee shops thinking it's a cheap and easy way to make money only to realize they're failing horribly because they didn't have the capital and funding to be starting a business in the first place.  This facebook post reeks of "Oh my god, what do we do now?" and that is not how you present yourself to potential customers. They could be charging $4 per cup and I'd imagine they'd still be failing.

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: tufsu1 on September 19, 2011, 09:02:54 PM
on anothe thread, someone pointed out that this place sells coffee for much less than a certain place in Springfield....and now we see the results of that policy.

Dumb.


gsb

QuoteI'm just saying, all these places need to up their game if they wanna stay in business & compete with places like Starbucks. Its not enough to just "not be Starbucks", you have to be better than them. On price, on quality & on seriousness. I don't get that vibe anywhere here to be honest.

Seriously, the sweepings off the Maxwell House Coffee plant floor are better than Startbucks, and the janitor serving it to you would be more engaged and charge you a lot less.

iloveionia

I've rewritten this post a few times now.  I'll keep it simple.  How can anyone compare Starbucks, McDonalds, or another chain to a small mom and pop coffee house?  They are not in the same category.  Period. 

I believe strongly in supporting local businesses, the mom and pop kind.  That said, I have to watch my finances too and can only buy local (which is sometimes more expensive) when my budget allows. 

Truth is, if I were a coffee drinker (I'm not) I am certain I'd have to brew that Mr. Coffee at home each morning.  I'd be broke otherwise!  Even if I did buy it at McDonald's, 7-Eleven, wherever.  LOL.


tufsu1

thanks Stephen...actually I got a note on Facebook a few weeks ago, so I do know some of the story....but (in relation to the other thread) you know as well as I do that a coffee shop isn't going to survive on $3 cups of coffee with free refills.

tufsu1

ok, I know nothing of the food business (btw, for the 30th time, I'm not an engineer)...so please explain to me and everyone else how a coffee shop makes ends meet while providing unlimited free refills?

peestandingup

Went by there tonight. Looks like they've closed & moved all of their stuff out.

thekillingwax


RiversideLoki

Yeah, Alva's decided to run a hotdog cart and run coffee out of Hammerhall Game Hall. Stop by and see him there.

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5ptscurmudgeon

Alva's food was very good. Perhaps his marketing plan should include something that says so like diner or restaurant. I don't go look for a good meal when I'm out of town at a coffee stand.


Alva

Just chiming in here.
The Coffee we used was an organic local roast, and $2 a cup got you one refill. Just claiming that we did unlimited refills for the wrong price shows a complete lack of knowledge on the subject.
During the last few weeks, the $600 commercial Bunn machine we used needed a $300 repair, hence the Mr Coffee.
We did not run for 3 years on a plastic coffee maker, it was an emergency back-up machine.
If you think the business failed due to me doing things "half -assed", you were obviously not a regular customer.
When I closed, I made sure every one that worked there had a job to replace the one they were losing.
I opened during one of the worst financial times in our nation's history, in a neighborhood where businesses are dropping like flies, and I did it with $800 cash and no investors, loans, or other capital.
Try that yourself, keep it going for three years. You'll walk out with your head up, like I did.
Every day I get someone that tells me what I should do, or change, that would make me more money. Usually that person has never owned a business, and doesn't have the resources or skills to start and run a lemonade stand. I usually ask them what successful business they own, and they walk away.With their head down.

For those here that did support the shop, thank you from the bottom of my heart. You are genuinely appreciated. And missed.                                                                 Alva