Jags are expected to lift the Week 1 blackout

[Tacachale]

It's not just a winning season that helps, it's winning consistently. (By this I mean a consistent stint as playoff contenders, not a few stray playoff runs amidst season after season of middle-of-the-league mediocrity). And it will only help; it won't cure everything.

There's the lockout, obviously, and the recession is huge - we were hit particularly bad by the real estate collapse. Tampa and Miami are in the same boat we are as far as that goes. But the Jag's marketing team has shown that when they actually get out there and fight for their fans' ever diminishing entertainment dollar, they can accomplish amazing feats.

[ProjectMaximus]

Again, you all are looking at this in all the wrong way.  The "value" you all think they are creating doesn't pay players, doesn't pay overhead. 
This isn't about what makes financial sense this week.  This is about how will you make money in order to spend to the required amounts.

It's a simple debate. Either you believe that the value of having the team on TV will help sales in the future by creating fans and keeping interest, or you think it will deter people from ever buying tickets. Hard to prove it one way or the other, but I dont think, Bridges, you can say definitively that it doesn't pay the players or pay the overhead. The opposing argument to your stance is that it will create more fans and ticket buyers in the long run.

Also, I think ticket sales are a smaller fraction of the revenue than the television deals, internet, memorabilia, etc. I did not look these numbers up, but just guessing $60 million in ticket sales for a full season sellout (including preseason)...that's just .66% of the NFL's estimated $9 billion in revenue per the CBA negotiations. Or, 21% for the 32 teams collectively. Unscientific, but I think we can safely assume the lion's share of revenue comes outside of ticket sales. Still important though, we all agree there!!

Winning cures all ills.

In my rosy-eyed view, we will have issues selling out the stadium this year and the lockout played a large part in that.  The other part is the team dynamics - a lot of people want big-names from big schools and don't agree with the philosophy that is represented on Gator Blvd.

This team is being built to maintain a championship caliber level year after year after year, and the jury is still out, but make no bones about it - year three of rebuilding tells a lot.  We know what we have at QB & RB moving forward.  The line on both sides is set.  The biggest question we have is our secondary and our WRs. 

Let's see how the year plays out.  If we make a wild-card slot this year?  We won't have any issues going into next, because we know we have a young QB in the wings, young talent everywhere and Gene will draft more young talent to fill holes.   It's a double edge sword, though, if we tank this year - expect the ticket sales to drop even further and everyone will start to question Gene Smith - rightfully so.

Winning will cure everything.

Does winning really cure all evils? Tampa had a great season last year and they are still 15k away from selling out their home opener. Many expect Tampa to be a playoff contender team this year. The Jags meanwhile have been picked by most to be 5-11 or 7-9 at best, yet we are closer to our sellout number. It is the Great Recession/ Depression that we are in. The dollar does not go as far as it used to, and there are plenty of other wothwhile palces to put your dollar rather than football. I am a Jags fan, but everyone just needs to face the facts that things will not be as they once were for a very long time, if ever.

Vic Ketchman used to point out that the Jags' first ever dip in attendance and ticket sales came during and immediately after the greatest season in franchise history (1999). So, I'm not so sure winning is the ultimate solution. It sure does help, there's no denying that, but there are clearly other factors.

[duvaldude08]

It's not just a winning season that helps, it's winning consistently. (By this I mean a consistent stint as playoff contenders, not a few stray playoff runs amidst season after season of middle-of-the-league mediocrity). And it will only help; it won't cure everything.

There's the lockout, obviously, and the recession is huge - we were hit particularly bad by the real estate collapse. Tampa and Miami are in the same boat we are as far as that goes. But the Jag's marketing team has shown that when they actually get out there and fight for their fans' ever diminishing entertainment dollar, they can accomplish amazing feats.

I agree 100%. Winning doesnt cure all. Its help, but is not the answer. As soon as we started losing in the 200'0's tickets sales dropped. And we were play off contender's four years straight. And as quiet as it is kept, no one ever wanted to have a team. And they were waiting on us to slip. And 2009 was the perfect time to start bashing. Every team in the league has been through what we are experiecing. Difference is most cities have had their team 3 times longer than we have. EVERY team has had losing streaks and EVERY time has had attendance issues at one point or another.

[tufsu1]

Not that this statement applies to you all....but.....imagine if folks in Jax. put as much energy into buying tickets as they do to talking about buying tickets!

[duvaldude08]

Not that this statement applies to you all....but.....imagine if folks in Jax. put as much energy into buying tickets as they do to talking about buying tickets!

Amen!! This one guy on the news commented last night saying " It sucks when you can see the game on TV on sunday.' WTF!! Thats the problem. Then he went on to say " If we had drafted Tebow, people would be coming out to support him and we would not have problems selling tickets." Someone needs to inform him that using gimmicks is not a way to sell tickets in the long term.

[fsujax]

I got my tickets. I will be there.

[duvaldude08]

Same Here!

[KenFSU]

All I can is that I feel truly sorry for those who weren't at Everbank last season.

Clips like these are what the Jags should be using to push tickets.

These two moments were worth the price of season tickets alone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpFyjJZ5Db0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY3rHXj_pKA

Love this fancam footage of the 59 yard field goal, especially the guy in the Colts jersey at the end:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euj7637R8XU

[fieldafm]

If anyone wants seats to the Jags game this weekend for as low as $35 upper deck or lower bowl seats at $45... please PM me. 

This game needs to be a sellout.

[tufsu1]

well rumor has it the Jags just released Garrard....so for all you Tebow lovers, now they have room!

[Dapperdan]

well rumor has it the Jags just released Garrard....so for all you Tebow lovers, now they have room!

Where did you hear this from?

[cline]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/06/report-jaguars-release-david-garrard/

[KenFSU]

well rumor has it the Jags just released Garrard....so for all you Tebow lovers, now they have room!

It's being reported all over the place now.

Holy crap.

I don't know about this move.

At the very least, he was worth keeping around as a backup.

[KenFSU]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/david-garrard-cut-jacksonville-jaguars-quarterback-090611

[Tacachale]

Holy crap! Did anyone see this coming?