Proposal for fair taxation

[JeffreyS]

Jax Native here you go.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/269537/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-world-of-class-warfare-the-poors-free-ride-is-over

[buckethead]

You are a typical Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter right wing, I care only about myself and family and the less fortunate can go to hell bunch.
I am sick of you all.

You don't know me from Adam.  I would not give you 2 cents for this lot combined.  I was the first Republican in my family when I registered to vote when I turned 18.  But I left the Republican Party when Slick was acquitted with 10 GOP votes.  Since then I have come to reject the libertarianism of the Republican Party establishment in favor of genuine conservatism.

What is "Genuine Conservatism"?

I reject all isms, but none more so than absolutism.

[jax-native68]

You are a typical Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter right wing, I care only about myself and family and the less fortunate can go to hell bunch.
I am sick of you all.

You don't know me from Adam.  I would not give you 2 cents for this lot combined.  I was the first Republican in my family when I registered to vote when I turned 18.  But I left the Republican Party when Slick was acquitted with 10 GOP votes.  Since then I have come to reject the libertarianism of the Republican Party establishment in favor of genuine conservatism.

and do you see where conservativism got us all...in the gutter and you can thank the republican conservative ideas rules and regulations..

Conservatism hasn't existed as a political force in the United States since FDR was in the White House.  What we have now is libertarianism that masquerades as conservatism.  But libertarianism and conservatism are not the same thing.

[jax-native68]

Jax Native here you go.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/269537/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-world-of-class-warfare-the-poors-free-ride-is-over

And?

[jax-native68]

You are a typical Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter right wing, I care only about myself and family and the less fortunate can go to hell bunch.
I am sick of you all.

You don't know me from Adam.  I would not give you 2 cents for this lot combined.  I was the first Republican in my family when I registered to vote when I turned 18.  But I left the Republican Party when Slick was acquitted with 10 GOP votes.  Since then I have come to reject the libertarianism of the Republican Party establishment in favor of genuine conservatism.

What is "Genuine Conservatism"?

I reject all isms, but none more so than absolutism.

I'll start a new thread.

[avonjax]

At least slick left with a balanced budget and a surplus. And you should be more upset that Ford pardoned Nixon when he committed a crime against everyone in the country. After reading your other post, it seems obvious the only part of conservatism you are concerned about is the money part. The Jon Stewart clip, is funny and completely true. If there is a class warfare it's because conservatives resent the poor having a refrigerator because they are too poor pay taxes. The poor do pay taxes, when they buy clothing, buy gas. Even when you are poor there are essential needs like soap and other necessities. The ones who have the privilege of working a low paying job still pay in SS and Medicare. Your view sounds more resentful and without compassion for those who can't do better for themselves. Not all the Welfare recipients and low wage earners want to be in the situation they are in. But so many "conservatives" believe they just want to leech off of society. I understand you are not a Republican and I guess not a Tea Party member, but I love how the right and other conservative types, and my all time favorite Fox News shills attacked Warren Buffet for his personal view of taxation.
On that side if you don't stand in line with their ideology you are demonized. 

[jax-native68]

At least slick left with a balanced budget and a surplus.

Technically no.  Federal law says that all money collected in Social Security taxes must be held in trust by the United States government and invested in the safest securities available- U.S. government bonds.  Legally the federal government has to borrow money, i.e, it has to loan the money it collects in Social Security taxes to itself, so by definition the federal budget cannot be balanced.

[Dog Walker]

You are a typical Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter right wing, I care only about myself and family and the less fortunate can go to hell bunch.
I am sick of you all.

You don't know me from Adam.  I would not give you 2 cents for this lot combined.  I was the first Republican in my family when I registered to vote when I turned 18.  But I left the Republican Party when Slick was acquitted with 10 GOP votes.  Since then I have come to reject the libertarianism of the Republican Party establishment in favor of genuine conservatism.

and do you see where conservativism got us all...in the gutter and you can thank the republican conservative ideas rules and regulations..

Conservatism hasn't existed as a political force in the United States since FDR was in the White House.  What we have now is libertarianism that masquerades as conservatism.  But libertarianism and conservatism are not the same thing.

You have it exactly backward.  What we have now is "conservatism" trying to mask itself as libertarianism.  It is the Fundamentalist Christian conservatives yelling, "Small Government, low taxes", and when they get elected the first thing they do is hurry to pass laws extending the governments reach into women's reproductive rights and pass other laws trying to get tax payers money to support religious institutions.  They don't want small government, they want the Christian equivalent of Sharia law....more intrusive government into peoples' personal lives.

[jax-native68]

You are a typical Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter right wing, I care only about myself and family and the less fortunate can go to hell bunch.
I am sick of you all.

You don't know me from Adam.  I would not give you 2 cents for this lot combined.  I was the first Republican in my family when I registered to vote when I turned 18.  But I left the Republican Party when Slick was acquitted with 10 GOP votes.  Since then I have come to reject the libertarianism of the Republican Party establishment in favor of genuine conservatism.

and do you see where conservativism got us all...in the gutter and you can thank the republican conservative ideas rules and regulations..

Conservatism hasn't existed as a political force in the United States since FDR was in the White House.  What we have now is libertarianism that masquerades as conservatism.  But libertarianism and conservatism are not the same thing.

You have it exactly backward.  What we have now is "conservatism" trying to mask itself as libertarianism.  It is the Fundamentalist Christian conservatives yelling, "Small Government, low taxes", and when they get elected the first thing they do is hurry to pass laws extending the governments reach into women's reproductive rights and pass other laws trying to get tax payers money to support religious institutions.  They don't want small government, they want the Christian equivalent of Sharia law....more intrusive government into peoples' personal lives.

There is nothing inherently conservative about small government or low taxes.  Abortion is murder and sleeping around leads to the destruction of society- something that liberals and libertarians want.

[Garden guy]

That's a rediculous statement...no one wants the distruction of society...it just seems that you have completely forgotten that it is exactly the conservative ideas rules and regulations that we followed...we did...now look where it put us all...

[jax-native68]

That's a rediculous statement...no one wants the distruction of society...it just seems that you have completely forgotten that it is exactly the conservative ideas rules and regulations that we followed...we did...now look where it put us all...

What are you babbling about?  Conservatives have not told you libs to sleep around.  Conservatives have not told you libs to get high.  Conservatives have not told you libs to ignore history or human nature while you strive to create your liberal utopia.

[JeffreyS]

No they lead with their Jerry Farwellian examples.

[jax-native68]

No they lead with their Jerry Farwellian examples.

Huh?

[Diderot]

Enough junk food to be overweight?

The reason healthier diets are beyond the reach of many people is that such diets cost more. On a per calorie basis, diets composed of whole grains, fish, and fresh vegetables and fruit are far more expensive than refined grains, added sugars and added fats.

The Spirit Level: Why Greater Equality Makes Societies Stronger, uses data from the World Bank, the World Health Organization, and the U.S. Census to argue that disparities in income produce a wide range of social illsâ€"like obesity, teen pregnancy, mental illness, murder, and infant mortalityâ€"that could be addressed by shrinking the gap between the haves and the have-nots.

Sources:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/01/040105071229.htm


http://www.slate.com/id/2229523/pagenum/2

[Garden guy]

Enough junk food to be overweight?

The reason healthier diets are beyond the reach of many people is that such diets cost more. On a per calorie basis, diets composed of whole grains, fish, and fresh vegetables and fruit are far more expensive than refined grains, added sugars and added fats.

The Spirit Level: Why Greater Equality Makes Societies Stronger, uses data from the World Bank, the World Health Organization, and the U.S. Census to argue that disparities in income produce a wide range of social illsâ€"like obesity, teen pregnancy, mental illness, murder, and infant mortalityâ€"that could be addressed by shrinking the gap between the haves and the have-nots.

Sources:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/01/040105071229.htm


http://www.slate.com/id/2229523/pagenum/2

Good healthy foods are expensive because of the massive amounts of sugars fats etc in our diets and are there because of the huge heavily subsidized food conglomerates that have taken over our food supply at the hands of CEO's who could care less about he human healthy system..all they care about is the goverment cash to grow corn and soy....we are all screwed.