Proposal for fair taxation

[jax-native68]

pretty sure the poorest 30% in the US are a lot poorer than the poorest 30% in denmark.

How many poor in Denmark have a car? Cable TV? Internet access?  Enough junk food to be overweight?

[jax-native68]

1. All income taxes for individual persons/married couples and corporations will be levied on gross income over the amount equal to the poverty level income for a single-person household.  No deductions or exemptions will be allowed, but the government can grant vouchers that can be used to pay taxes providing you spend money on something the government wants you to spend money on- health insurance or a retirement account for example.

2. Each taxpayer will pay an amount in taxes that is equal to the percentage of the gross national income that accrued to the taxpayer for the previous calendar year.  If your income for last year equaled x% of the total gross income for all taxpayers last year, then you pay x% of this year's income in taxes.

3. Current tax-exempt corporations and organizations will retain their exemption.

Number 3 should end now. Churches and nonprofit religious organizations are a perfect place to hide money and it's happening everywhere. Closed books?...privacy?....no wonder there's one on every corner...Watch donations drop like a brick when they are'nt tax exempt...wonder how these churches get sooo big and control thier areas?...makes ya go hmmm??? I wonder..

Typical knee-jerk liberalism.  What happens when the government destroys the 1st Amendment by taxing churches into non-existence?

[jax-native68]

The Rich in this country are pretty filthy rich.

So just what is it that entitles you to their money?

[Garden guy]

The Rich in this country are pretty filthy rich.

So just what is it that entitles you to their money?

When that money is not wholey theirs when they got it with special advantages only afforded to them set by those like them..so..yet mame...

[jax-native68]

When that money is not wholey theirs when they got it with special advantages only afforded to them set by those like them..so..yet mame...

Examples?  Documentation?

[JeffreyS]

The Rich in this country are pretty filthy rich.

So just what is it that entitles you to their money?

I more of a big tax payer but I do realize I pay more because the government does much more for people who earn more.  That was not the point of my post it was more to point out that the Rich in the country are kicking ass as opposed to not so filthy rich. I am not vilifying the rich. 

It is still surprising to me that there are people out there who do not get the basic morals and practicality of taxing progressively.  My guess is you are smart enough to understand we are all just more beholden to political dogma than morals or just what actually works.

[jax-native68]

I more of a big tax payer but I do realize I pay more because the government does much more for people who earn more.

Examples?  Documentation other than your say-so?

It is still surprising to me that there are people out there who do not get the basic morals and practicality of taxing progressively.

There is no morality to it; it's theft. 

[avonjax]

Jax-native68 you are completely totally wrong about everything

[avonjax]

I also think it's STUPID to compare a country with about 312,000 people with a country the size of the Miami Metro area of about 5.5 million. And show me where 45% pay no taxes...

Break that down for me.

[avonjax]

You are a typical Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter right wing, I care only about myself and family and the less fortunate can go to hell bunch.
I am sick of you all.

[JeffreyS]

If the government could not maintain society the Rich man would suffer more than the poor man that is the history of our world.  Enforcing contracts benefits the rich more than the poor.  Policing protects the haves from the have nots. Subsidizing roads and airports benefits those who can travel more.  Providing a secure market place for society is more utilized by the rich and on and on.  Western culture is a moral construct based on Judo-Christian tradition.  This is basic 101 stuff Jax Native. 

Again the rich aren't evil and there are lots of arguments to be made for basic conservative philosophy.

[Garden guy]

You are a typical Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter right wing, I care only about myself and family and the less fortunate can go to hell bunch.
I am sick of you all.

Thank you...words to live by...

[jax-native68]

I also think it's STUPID to compare a country with about 312,000 people with a country the size of the Miami Metro area of about 5.5 million. And show me where 45% pay no taxes...

Break that down for me.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/14/pf/taxes/who_pays_income_taxes/index.htm

63.2 million people in this country, people whose income is less than $50,000, had zero federal income tax liability in 2010.

[jax-native68]

You are a typical Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter right wing, I care only about myself and family and the less fortunate can go to hell bunch.
I am sick of you all.

You don't know me from Adam.  I would not give you 2 cents for this lot combined.  I was the first Republican in my family when I registered to vote when I turned 18.  But I left the Republican Party when Slick was acquitted with 10 GOP votes.  Since then I have come to reject the libertarianism of the Republican Party establishment in favor of genuine conservatism.

[Garden guy]

You are a typical Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter right wing, I care only about myself and family and the less fortunate can go to hell bunch.
I am sick of you all.

You don't know me from Adam.  I would not give you 2 cents for this lot combined.  I was the first Republican in my family when I registered to vote when I turned 18.  But I left the Republican Party when Slick was acquitted with 10 GOP votes.  Since then I have come to reject the libertarianism of the Republican Party establishment in favor of genuine conservatism.

and do you see where conservativism got us all...in the gutter and you can thank the republican conservative ideas rules and regulations..