Teabagger Governors Lead In Job Growth

[acme54321]

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/08/14/2359614/numbers-confirm-texas-is-leading.html


"Numbers confirm: Texas is leading the way on hiring. Florida lands the No. 2 slot

Gov. Rick Perry hopes job creation in Texas will land him in the White House. The Lone Star state is well ahead of second-place finisher Florida on that front.

By DOUGLAS HANKS
dhanks@MiamiHerald.com


Texas Gov. Rick Perry brags of his state leading the nation in job creation, a boast he hopes will land him in the White House. But do the numbers back him up?

In a word: yes.

Perry’s campaign to position Texas as the solution to America’s employment woes takes on special meaning in Florida, since the Sunshine State holds a top spot in the job-creation derby, too. Florida Gov. Rick Scott, who ran on a promise of 700,000 new jobs, made the point repeatedly in a session with Herald writers that only Texas is doing better than Florida when it comes to jobs."

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/08/14/2359614/numbers-confirm-texas-is-leading.html#ixzz1V62SE0ZD

[RMHoward]

You will ruffle feathers around here talking like that.  Don't you know which forum this is man?  Around here, GOP=evil rich people and teaparty=homegrown terrorists.  Dont expect to make any headway with facts here.

[RiversideLoki]

If you read the numbers, overall, job LOSS is outstripping job GROWTH. And both Florida and Texas produced LESS jobs than they did in 2010.

So if you're trying to turn lemons into lemonade, go ahead. But it's still crappy news.

And don't get started on Texas. It's a known fact that Mr. Secession himself has "balanced" Texas' budget using Federal dollars.

[urbanlibertarian]

Uh, ok, Stephen but what do you think about acme54321's original post?

[RMHoward]

Hey Steph,
Thanks for advice.  Im really surprised you didnt copy n paste all my previous posts.   You are famous for that.  If disagreeing with you on every topic makes me a "jerk", so be it.   Im happy to be labeled a jerk by you.  Until you get that "moderator" status next to your redheaded avator, i wont concern myself with your demands about going some place else.  You see, I have as much right to post here as you do.  Now bug off.

[RMHoward]

Well now i know why you are always here.  You are a big shot editor.  Impressive.  Thank you for making your position here clear.  Wondering WTH your definition of civility is.   You of all people spew venom and hate more than anyone else on this site. And you call me angry.  Funny.  Im sure you are a nice guy to all the minions here who agree with your politics.  If not, your are labeled a jerk, or a troll.   Thats fine.  I now know the fox guards the hen house here.

[urbanlibertarian]

Uh, ok, Stephen but what do you think about acme54321's original post?

I don't have enough information to comment on it.  I usually research the claims first you know.

I thought I would look it up later on this afternoon, and then comment.

What do you think about it?

I think that job growth is more likely to occur where it is cheaper and easier to start, maintain and grow a small business.  A small business owner will do the math and balance the total cost of a new employee against the revenue that employee can generate for the business.  Taxes and regulation affect that calculation.

[RiversideLoki]

Paul Krugman's editorial today is enlightening and highlights the fallacy of the Texas Unmiracle.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/the-texas-unmiracle.html?_r=1&hp

What Texas shows is that a state offering cheap labor and, less important, weak regulation can attract jobs from other states. I believe that the appropriate response to this insight is “Well, duh.” The point is that arguing from this experience that depressing wages and dismantling regulation in America as a whole would create more jobs â€" which is, whatever Mr. Perry may say, what Perrynomics amounts to in practice â€" involves a fallacy of composition: every state can’t lure jobs away from every other state.

[NotNow]

[manasia]

Actually Rick Perry, the Texas “jobs miracle” is really a Texas population growth miracle

The Rick Perry elevator pitch is that Texas has led the nation in aggregate job growth, which is true. But it’s unemployment performance has been just average. So as Matt Yglesias points out, this is to say that the Texas “jobs miracle” is really a Texas population growth miracle. This is a real enough phenomenon, lots of people have been moving to Texas from both Mexico and the non-Texas parts of the United States of America.

http://saintpetersblog.com/2011/08/acutally-rick-perry-the-texas-%E2%80%9Cjobs-miracle%E2%80%9D-is-really-a-texas-population-growth-miracle/

[NotNow]

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/05/18/texas-continues-to-see-influx-of-businesses-relocate-from-california/


Texas Continues To See Influx Of Businesses Relocate From California
By Bud Gillett, CBS 11 News
May 18, 2011 9:23 PM

Reporting Bud Gillett

DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) â€"  In 1849, finding gold at Sutter’s Mill set off a historic Gold Rush to California. Today, though, businesses are leaving that state to seek their fortunes elsewhere: Many of which are either or expanding or relocating in Texas.

The most recent â€" and high profile â€" example happened just this month, as California staple In-N-Out Burger opened its two southernmost locations in Frisco and Allen. As predicted, scores of former Golden State residents lined up, causing hours-long waits in its opening days.

Like many businesses, former California residents are happy to reside in the Lone Star State for similar reasons.

“I have no second thoughts, no qualms, no reluctance about what I’ve done and moved to Texas,” said Joe DeInnocentes, a California transplant. “I’m not sure I’d ever go back to California, quite frankly.”

For DeInnocentes, the state economy is stronger here. His whole family is employed, he said. The state’s unemployment rate sits at 8.1 percent compared to California’s 12.3 percent. The national average is 8.7 percent.

“Certainly, California is not a business-friendly state,” said Biff Comte, who is moving his entire corporate headquarters of his home health care business AccentCare to Texas.


The business is currently settling into its North Dallas property, and only brought about 15 workers with it. That means, Comte said, about 80 new jobs for Texans. But why move?

“Everything from the lawsuits, to the taxes too,” he said. “They’re just going to get worse until they fix their problems. So instead of fighting it, we decided, let’s go to a state and a city that really wants business.”

As his company expands coast- to-coast, having a major airport in the center of the country is vital. Executives can be anywhere in North American in just four hours, and being in the Central Time Zone means being able to communicate with both coasts during regular business hours.

But in the California capitol of Sacramento, Gerar Zawaydeh said he struggles to keep his restaurants open because of state bureaucracy.

“Every year, the legislature introduces a lot of regulations as far as small businesses are concerned that could prove to be costly,” he said. “I want to stay in California, but I also have to make a living as well.”

Another part of the allure is that Texas is a right-to-work state with no personal or corporate income tax. The labor force is considered well educated, but perhaps more importantly, it’s considered hungry for work.

“Here’s 25 to 30 companies that are currently looking at moving to North Texas,” John Crawford, president of Downtown Dallas Inc., said, flipping through a list.

Crawford works closely with city officials to lure businesses and residents to Dallas.

“Right now we’ve never had more interest from people all over the country â€" in fact, all over the world â€" in terms of looking at Texas and Dallas than we have today,” he said.

There’s a moderate climate in North Texas, as well as plentiful and well-built housing. Energetic downtown areas in Dallas and Fort Worth attract younger residents, and Crawford’s group spear-headed a plan the council approved last month to rejuvenate the downtown Dallas sector, filling it with more public transportation and affordable housing.

And the area already supports major international companies, like Kimberly-Clark.

“(Texans) do a great job of attracting companies,” Comte said.

Businesses must agree: A recent poll of CEOs ranked Texas as the No. 1 state for business, the seventh year in a row.

That same poll ranked California as the worst.

[copperfiend]

What middle class?

Through two years of weak economic recovery, Texas has led the nation in job creation. Of all the jobs created in the United States since 2009, 38% have been created in Texas.

But if Texas has created many jobs, it has failed to create good jobs. Many of the jobs created since 2009 pay only minimum wage, and Texas, along with Mississippi, has the highest percentage of minimum wage workers in the U.S.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/08/15/frum.perry.economy/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

[cityimrov]

What middle class?

Through two years of weak economic recovery, Texas has led the nation in job creation. Of all the jobs created in the United States since 2009, 38% have been created in Texas.

But if Texas has created many jobs, it has failed to create good jobs. Many of the jobs created since 2009 pay only minimum wage, and Texas, along with Mississippi, has the highest percentage of minimum wage workers in the U.S.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/08/15/frum.perry.economy/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

I don't know too much about Texas and how they create jobs except they have a lot of oil.  However, whenever someone talks about jobs, it reminds me of a Mike Hogan Ad one day on job creation.  Basically, it had Mike Hogan promising more jobs to Jacksonville while he was standing in front of some rather low prestigious job in a photo op's.   

The point I'm trying to make is, jobs are very easy to make for government.  If Florida, today, abolished the minimum wage, removed workers rights, abolished all corporate taxes, abolished all workers rights, abolished all consumer rights, abolished all environmental laws, and so forth - we would probably be the #1 job creating state in the nation.  The big question is this - do we really want the jobs that is produced by these policies?  Would we want to live next to these jobs? 

As for me, personally, I want cool, interesting, meaningful, and very high paying jobs instead of the worst jobs in the country that pay the least but that's just my personal opinion.  A job is a job to most people, right? 

[reednavy]

You will ruffle feathers around here talking like that.  Don't you know which forum this is man?  Around here, GOP=evil rich people and teaparty=homegrown terrorists.  Dont expect to make any headway with facts here.

dude, what the hell is your problem, seriously?

[Garden guy]

So the fact that most of those so called jobs are averaged at $7hr without health insurance...it looks like the teabagger group is just like republicans...keep the poor poor and unhealthy and the rich rich and living long...it's the rightwing freak motto. our teabagger gov