Teabagger Governors Lead In Job Growth

[jcjohnpaint]

You will ruffle feathers around here talking like that.  Don't you know which forum this is man?  Around here, GOP=evil rich people and teaparty=homegrown terrorists.  Dont expect to make any headway with facts here.

I think you meant to post on the TU forum and came here by accident. 

[bill]

So the fact that most of those so called jobs are averaged at $7hr without health insurance...it looks like the teabagger group is just like republicans...keep the poor poor and unhealthy and the rich rich and living long...it's the rightwing freak motto. our teabagger gov

Typical liberal thinking. I would rather have low paying jobs than no jobs.

[copperfiend]

So the fact that most of those so called jobs are averaged at $7hr without health insurance...it looks like the teabagger group is just like republicans...keep the poor poor and unhealthy and the rich rich and living long...it's the rightwing freak motto. our teabagger gov

Typical liberal thinking. I would rather have low paying jobs than no jobs.

What's the difference? A person can't survive on minimum wage.

[Diderot]

It's troubling that when our economy has stagnated; that when consumer spending has faultered because of high debt , job loss, and low consumer confidence; when businesses hold back on consumption because of pessimistic expectations, that our government is hindered in stepping in and taking up the slack by spending in ways that will bolster our economy. 

Now is a great time for our government to spend.  Interests rates are low , we should be investing in our people through education; our nation's infrastructure through improvement to highways, high-speed rail, and broad-band internet; we should be investing in energy independence.  Job growth through government spending eventually causes private spending and production to grow, and as the economy heats up, tax revenue exceeds government spending  and the US will be able to repair its balance sheet just like it did during the Clinton administration.

We do not have a budget problem but a jobs and growth problem, and the only way out of the mess is for our country to invest in itself in ways for our people to be productive and moving again.

[cityimrov]

So the fact that most of those so called jobs are averaged at $7hr without health insurance...it looks like the teabagger group is just like republicans...keep the poor poor and unhealthy and the rich rich and living long...it's the rightwing freak motto. our teabagger gov

Typical liberal thinking. I would rather have low paying jobs than no jobs.

Actually, this type of thinking was credited to the extremely conservative economist Milton Friedman. 

"While traveling by car during one of his many overseas travels, Professor Milton Friedman spotted scores of road builders moving earth with shovels instead of modern machinery. When he asked why powerful equipment wasn’t used instead of so many laborers, his host told him it was to keep employment high in the construction industry. If they used tractors or modern road building equipment, fewer people would have jobs was his host’s logic

'Then instead of shovels, why don’t you give them spoons and create even more jobs?' Friedman inquired."

In short, if jobs is the goal, government can create plenty of those.  Jobs is the basic tenant of communism as well - take Cuba and it's very low unemployment number as an example.  Plenty of jobs for the people there. 

[finehoe]

Fact checking Rick Perry’s announcement speech:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/fact-checking-rick-perrys-announcement-speech/2011/08/14/gIQAVHbaFJ_blog.html

[copperfiend]

GWB 2.0

[BridgeTroll]

More like 3.0

Many consider BHO to be 2.0...

[Midway ®]

I am moving this post here because it is more relevant in this thread:

Apparently the connection to the "job creator" thought process was too ephemeral in its previous location.

Here is a link to a Texas public school unit on the powers and responsibilities of the Texas governor. It should be noted that Texas has what is called a "weak Governor" who is more or less a figurehead and does not run or have very much influence on the state government. This system has turned out to be fortunate for the state, given the potential for mismanagement by former holders of that office.

Here is the link:

www.odessa.edu/dept/govt/dille/brian/courses/2306c/unit6a.doc

Here is what is probably the most relevant passage in that unit:

Due to perceived abuses during Reconstruction by Governor E.J. Davis, the Texas Constitution provides for a weak governor with little formal power.  The governor had a two-year term until the constitution was amended in the 1970s, changing the term to four years.  There is no limit on the number of terms a governor can serve.  The governor's appointive and executive powers are limited by the plural executive, which forces the governor to share the running of the executive branch with independently elected department and agency heads.  Unlike the president and governors in some states, the Texas governor has very limited removal powers.  The governor has very little budgetary power in the formation, development, and execution stages.  However, the governor's item veto powers over the state budget can have an impact on the final budget signed into law.  It is in the legislative area that the Texas governor possesses the most significant powers.  The governor's veto is rarely overridden due to the short biennial legislative session, and the governor does have the power to set the agenda for any special sessions.  Both of these powers can be used as bargaining tools.  Because of a misuse of the pardon power by Governor Miriam Ferguson, the governor's judicial powers are limited today.  Comparing the Texas governor to the other 49 on four indexes of power--tenure of office, appointive powers, budgetary powers, and veto powers, finds that Texas governor is comparatively weak in formal powers.  Only in the areas of tenure and veto authority does the Texas governor rank strong.  As a result of the few formal powers, the informal powers determine how successful the Texas governor is.  The governor's lack of formal power makes the job of governing Texas--a large, diverse, economically important state--extremely challenging.  Although current and future problems seem to cry out for stronger and more effective leadership from the governor's mansion, the traditionalistic/individualistic political culture of the state makes it unlikely that the necessary changes will be made to significantly increase the powers of the Texas governor.

The obvious conclusion to be drawn from the above is that Rick Perry is really not responsible for the bulk of what happens in Texas, and to claim that his stewardship has guided the great state of Texas into whatever circumstances that they may or may not be in at the present moment is simply false.

In plain English, it is very likely that Rick Perry had almost nothing to do with job creation in Texas.

[Midway ®]

Texas Used Stimulus to Cover 97% of Its Deficit
By Derek Thompson

Jan 24 2011, 12:12 PM ET 15

Even as he railed against the Recovery Act, Texas Gov. Rick Perry used the government's stimulus plan to cover 97 percent of the state's budget deficit in 2009:

    Turns out Texas was the state that depended the most on those very stimulus funds to plug nearly 97% of its shortfall for fiscal 2010, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

    Texas, which crafts a budget every two years, was facing a $6.6 billion shortfall for its 2010-2011 fiscal years. It plugged nearly all of that deficit with $6.4 billion in Recovery Act money, allowing it to leave its $9.1 billion rainy day fund untouched.
    "Stimulus was very helpful in getting them through the last few years," said Brian Sigritz, director of state fiscal studies for the National Association of State Budget Officers, said of Texas.

In FY 2012, Texas' deficit is projected to come in at $12 billion, more than 30 percent of its budget -- the third highest rate in the country. But the states, which are collectively facing a $120 billion shortfall next year, are unlikely to see any more stimulus, in large part due to the efforts of conservatives like Gov. Perry, who have slammed the Recovery Act as a wasteful and ineffective government bailout. You make your own bed, etc.

Read the full story at CNN:
http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/23/news/economy/texas_perry_budget_stimulus/?cnn=yes

[Midway ®]

Texas, Florida lead in government job growth
The Business Journals - by G. Scott Thomas
Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 12:00am CDT - Last Modified: Friday, May 27, 2011, 12:38am CDT


Texas led the states with the largest growth in government jobs over the past 10 years.


    Texas adds 732,800 jobs in 10 years
    Financial sector shows new vigor
    Manufacturing drops in 49 states
    What jobs pay in America

Big government grew a bit bigger in 43 states and the District of Columbia during the past decade.

Texas posted the largest 10-year upswing in federal, state and local government jobs, adding 286,800 positions, according to an On Numbers study of employment data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

A total of 1,601,200 Texans held government jobs in April 2001, a figure that grew to 1,888,000 by last month.

Next in the national standings were Florida, which added 94,700 government jobs in 10 years, North Carolina (up 78,000) and Virginia (up 77,300).

See the bottom of this story for a state-by-state breakdown of government employment. This report follows similar studies the past three days of private-sector job growth by states, growth in financial and the overall decline in manufacturing jobs.

Michigan shed the largest number of government jobs over the past decade, reducing its total by 64,000. Next were Ohio (down 16,500) and Louisiana (down 15,100). Seven states lost government jobs over the 10-year period.

http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/on-numbers/scott-thomas/2011/05/government-gets-bigger-in-43-states.html

[copperfiend]

More like 3.0

Many consider BHO to be 2.0...

Not that many I am willing to bet.