Is Avondale Ready For A 7-Eleven?

[Jaxson]

As for those people who belong to the Slurpee and Snickers crowd, they would not be taking up a whole lot of parking as their turnover would be relatively high...

And no better way to justify a slurpee or a snicker by walking a few blocks to get it. 

LOL!  I agree.  I wish that I lived in a more walkable area.  I used to live near the Willowbranch Library and rode my bike all over the area.  I see, however, that there are many more people who are indeed married to their cars for better or for worse!

[thelakelander]

To be honest, the major market for the store is probably the employees and visitors of the surrounding retail and dining establishments.  So most of the traffic generated will be on foot, which was the goal of all those sidewalk and pedestrian amenities recently completed along the strip.

[north miami]

We intuitively trust in the familiar Neighborhood Doctrine of assumed Specialty,protective measures,outlook and response.

Perhaps the Ideal too high,too many sensitive residents harboring illusions in a world where "too many" are not enough to affect outcome and the nudge of tiny steps on the slip slope.What is Progress to some is a collective middle finger to the neighborhood with others.

Such obviously predictable emerging scenario was a discussion among Candidates at the RAP sponsored Candidate Forum during the last campaign cycle.It will be interesting to watch our new Councilman and other elements.

The headline could read 'Was Avondale Made Ready For a 7 - Eleven?'

My wife and I actually often fondly recall many of the 'Convenience' stores we experienced in certain other parts of the Nation.

I say Go For It Avondale.See what we end up with.If it goes not so Idyllic,better to lose an illusion.

It isn't as if anyone is jailed in Avondale and has to stay locked in!

[Jimmy]

And, of course, there is ample parking on the side-streets that surround the shoppes.  If I can't park in front of the Brick or YoBe or Vanity Furs, I can always walk a couple of blocks from the north or south.

I've been back-and-forth on this.  I've decided I like it for the neighborhood if the building is context-sensitive.  I have no illusions that it will be multi-story or mixed use.  I expect a single-story structure that adheres to the overlay.  If it's more, all the better. 

[iluvolives]

As a kid I used to ride my bike up to that gas station to get air in my tires. I think it would be nice to have a place where kids can walk or ride their bikes to and get soda or candy. An additional high end store or restaurant doesn't really serve that market.

[iMarvin]

I really like the Shoppes of Avondale. I wish it was all along St. Johns Ave. If there is a 7-Eleven put there, it should be urban and look appropriate for the neighborhood.

[tayana42]

Those "context-sensative design" photos above lead one to believe that's what we would get in Avondale, but I seriously doubt it, so I'm not in favor.  We have no need for another convenience store in the neighborhood.

[JaxNative68]

^^^ how about waiting for the design ideas before condemning?

[thelakelander]

Unless they plan to rezone the site (which wouldn't make much sense financially), the project is going to have to conform to the Riverside/Avondale Zoning Overlay.  Its currently zoned CCG-1, so if a new building is constructed, here are some general site development guidelines that will have to be incorporated:

Design Standards: commercial design standards must be met for the building's massing, height, setbacks, parking and landscaping.

Height: can't exceed 45'

Front setback: Min. 0'; Max. 15'.  This means it is not possible to put parking in front.  With a max of 15', all that will allow the owner to do is put a nice outdoor seating or landscaped area between the building and sidewalk.

Off-Street Parking: If they're going to have any parking, it will basically have to be in the rear.  According to the overlay, doing so will allow them to get more utilization out of the site.

you can read the overlay in detail here: http://www.riversideavondale.org/index.php?id=57

[JeffreyS]

What if they just want to use the.existing.structure?

[Steve]

What if they just want to use the.existing.structure?

They could probably do that today, but not 100% sure.

[jaxlore]

People keep mentioning the other convenience stores in the area. All of which are fairly sketchy, if this had an urban, more upscale flare to it, like the inside of the gate station on san jose in mandarin, I could definitely see it adding to the surroundings. I will say Murray Hill dropped the ball when some one let that hideous beast of a store be built on Edgewood. But I think the zoning and the community would keep something like that from happening.

[acme54321]

I don't think the people of Avondale will ever be happy.  They bitched about Mojos which I can't understand, then they are complaining about this.  I saw someone suggested an uber-upscale convenience store that sold live lobster like one they went to in NY.  I think some people needs a reality check, if that was going to make money it would probably already be there.   

[undergroundgourmet]

Wait until the Sushi place gets to building out. (Opening across from 'Town)
That should divert the attention from 7-11 

[Garden guy]

Too bad we can't ban them from posting beer ads all over the front...keep it clean and in putting with the neighborhood is don't see why it couldn't work...