UNF Campus Construction Update

Started by Metro Jacksonville, June 24, 2011, 06:07:30 AM

iMarvin

Quote from: copperfiend on June 24, 2011, 12:10:07 PM
Quote from: iMarvin on June 24, 2011, 11:04:30 AM
Quote from: Lucasjj on June 24, 2011, 10:51:02 AM
They would re-route Kernan so that it went on the other side of the old AOL building. This way that building and the land around it would be a more connected part of the university campus, rather than having it split by the heavy traficced road.

Quote from: tg on June 24, 2011, 10:53:33 AM
Re-routing Kernan to First Coast Technology Parkway would allow UNF to have greater control of the road that would split right through the to-be- acquired property. Thus, UNF could make it more pedestrian friendly, add signage, and cut down on non-UNF traffic. The plan is to have campus housing on the east side of Kernan in the future.

But wouldn't people still take the old Kernan?


I don't think so. It would only be two lanes and would have a red light when it meets the existing Kernan. The "new Kernan" would be a multi-lane road.

Well I guess it all depends on the person. If the light to go straight was green, I would go straight. If it was red, I guess I would turn.

Quote from: tg on June 24, 2011, 12:06:58 PM
There are actually a lot of restrictions within the core of campus about where they can build due to the environmental preserve. Check out the last page of this article: http://www.unf.edu/uploadedFiles/aa/ecenter/SS%20Designation.pdf

The areas surrounded in pink are not allowed to be built on.

I'll have to look at it later. I'm using my phone.

Tacachale

^Again, FCTP would be Kernan. That would be the straight shot, you'd have to make a right turn to get onto the current run of Kernan and onto campus. If you look at a map, that current stretch of Kernan isn't straight now, it bends west.

And yes, TG's right, a big chunk of UNF's property is preserved wetlands we can't (or at least won't) build on. There are also connected areas such as Lake Oneida that currently house nature trails, picnic areas, etc., that we also won't be building on.

There's some more space in the "core campus" for future classroom buildings and the like, but there wouldn't be enough room for larger projects such as housing, fraternity/sorority housing, or expanded sports facilities (yes, like a football stadium), for example. At any rate there's not going to be immediate development on most of the new land; it's to prepare for the future.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Tacachale

Quote from: wsansewjs on June 24, 2011, 09:10:50 AM
Quote from: PeeJayEss on June 24, 2011, 08:58:17 AM
A lazy river? That's insane! If I had known there was a lazy river, no way I would've gone to school up north.

Also, it says "evolution" on that building. I sure hope they're not teaching that baloney in the science department.

Welcome to my little osprey nest on this thread.

Yes, there is a "lazy river", but as reported by my fellow student peers, it is not really like the real lazy river. It is basically a pool with redirected channel, not the high speed full swinging channel like you go to a water park. It is a buzz word for this Osprey Fountain. Lot of students reported that Osprey Fountain is like a prison in terms of its appearance, security cameras everywhere, and the tightness. It is no where near like Home Sweet Home feeling.

Every campus on this planet such like high regard universities always allow all walks of life to share their insights including religious and science teaching. I am sure the word, "evolution" is just one part of the campus, which doesn't really mean it represent the entire university as a heavily science institution. Honestly, you got me fooled or I don't see that name anywhere in the photos.

-Josh

Ha, yes, it does say "evolution" on the biology building, among other things. And yes, they'll be teaching about it there, this being the biology building and all.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

copperfiend

Quote from: iMarvin on June 24, 2011, 12:32:41 PM

Well I guess it all depends on the person. If the light to go straight was green, I would go straight. If it was red, I guess I would turn.

I am sure most people will take the six lane road with a higher speed limit over the two lane road with the lower speed limit and red light at the end.

wsansewjs

Quote from: Tacachale on June 24, 2011, 02:50:46 PM
Quote from: wsansewjs on June 24, 2011, 09:10:50 AM
Quote from: PeeJayEss on June 24, 2011, 08:58:17 AM
A lazy river? That's insane! If I had known there was a lazy river, no way I would've gone to school up north.

Also, it says "evolution" on that building. I sure hope they're not teaching that baloney in the science department.

Welcome to my little osprey nest on this thread.

Yes, there is a "lazy river", but as reported by my fellow student peers, it is not really like the real lazy river. It is basically a pool with redirected channel, not the high speed full swinging channel like you go to a water park. It is a buzz word for this Osprey Fountain. Lot of students reported that Osprey Fountain is like a prison in terms of its appearance, security cameras everywhere, and the tightness. It is no where near like Home Sweet Home feeling.

Every campus on this planet such like high regard universities always allow all walks of life to share their insights including religious and science teaching. I am sure the word, "evolution" is just one part of the campus, which doesn't really mean it represent the entire university as a heavily science institution. Honestly, you got me fooled or I don't see that name anywhere in the photos.

-Josh

Ha, yes, it does say "evolution" on the biology building, among other things. And yes, they'll be teaching about it there, this being the biology building and all.

-rubs my eyes- Ah damn my monitor! I see it now.

What's wrong with evolution? Creationism is a crock of s*** that has barely any evidence to support its theory.

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

PeeJayEss

Quote from: wsansewjs on June 24, 2011, 03:47:25 PM
-rubs my eyes- Ah damn my monitor! I see it now.

What's wrong with evolution? Creationism is a crock of s*** that has barely any no evidence to support its theory.

-Josh

I fixed that for you.

iMarvin

Quote from: Tacachale on June 24, 2011, 02:46:58 PM
^Again, FCTP would be Kernan. That would be the straight shot, you'd have to make a right turn to get onto the current run of Kernan and onto campus. If you look at a map, that current stretch of Kernan isn't straight now, it bends west.

You're talking about the north intersection right? Well, not factoring in speed, if both lights were green, you would have to turn left to stay on Kernan. You would go straight to turn on FCTP. That is if the roads are changed.

Quote from: copperfiend on June 24, 2011, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: iMarvin on June 24, 2011, 12:32:41 PM

Well I guess it all depends on the person. If the light to go straight was green, I would go straight. If it was red, I guess I would turn.

I am sure most people will take the six lane road with a higher speed limit over the two lane road with the lower speed limit and red light at the end.

Ok

Tacachale

Quote from: iMarvin on June 24, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on June 24, 2011, 02:46:58 PM
^Again, FCTP would be Kernan. That would be the straight shot, you'd have to make a right turn to get onto the current run of Kernan and onto campus. If you look at a map, that current stretch of Kernan isn't straight now, it bends west.

You're talking about the north intersection right? Well, not factoring in speed, if both lights were green, you would have to turn left to stay on Kernan. You would go straight to turn on FCTP. That is if the roads are changed.


Sorry, I was talking about going south. Going south, you'd go straight through the light to stay on the 6-lane "new Kernan". You'd take a right to head into campus via "old Kernan". Coming north from JTB, you'd go straight to stay on new Kernan and would have to make a left to take "old Kernan" into the campus.

To get a visual take a look at the master plan when you get a chance (page 8).

http://www.unf.edu/uploadedFiles/anf/masterplan/2010_-_2020_Master_Plan/SMALL%20REDUCED110110_UNF_Final%20Report_v10.pdf

As I say, Kernan currently isn't straight there; it bends west. But people recognize it as the natural run of Kernan Blvd.; most people don't veer off onto FCTP if the light's red. The rerouting would make Kernan bend east, but it would still be the natural run of Kernan. I doubt any more people would veer off onto old Kernan than currently veer off onto FCTP.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Tacachale

Quote from: billy on June 24, 2011, 12:22:34 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on June 24, 2011, 10:35:01 AM
Quote from: copperfiend on June 24, 2011, 09:52:29 AM
I'm always impressed by the continued expansion at UNF. I would like to see them keep expanding out into Kernan also.

And yes, I would love to see a UNF football program someday.

The school currently owns a bunch of land to the east of Kernan. They own everything between between Kernan and First Coast Tech parkway (where the old AOL building, now UNF Hall, is located). The eventual plan is to re-route Kernan along the First Coast Tech Parkway.

I'm not sure what their future plans for expansion are, landwise. There's still some available land to the north of where they currently are.
Quote from: Tacachale on June 24, 2011, 10:35:01 AM
Quote from: copperfiend on June 24, 2011, 09:52:29 AM
I'm always impressed by the continued expansion at UNF. I would like to see them keep expanding out into Kernan also.

And yes, I would love to see a UNF football program someday.

The school currently owns a bunch of land to the east of Kernan. They own everything between between Kernan and First Coast Tech parkway (where the old AOL building, now UNF Hall, is located). The eventual plan is to re-route Kernan along the First Coast Tech Parkway.

I'm not sure what their future plans for expansion are, landwise. There's still some available land to the north of where they currently are.

What land to the north?

There's a strip of land along Kernan abutting the residential development. It's more northeast than north. And by "available" i mean it's undeveloped; it is obviously owned. I haven't heard why UNF hasn't tried to buy it, if it would even be worth it and if the owner would sell it.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

iMarvin

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Quote from: Tacachale on June 24, 2011, 05:36:01 PM
Quote from: iMarvin on June 24, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on June 24, 2011, 02:46:58 PM
^Again, FCTP would be Kernan. That would be the straight shot, you'd have to make a right turn to get onto the current run of Kernan and onto campus. If you look at a map, that current stretch of Kernan isn't straight now, it bends west.

You're talking about the north intersection right? Well, not factoring in speed, if both lights were green, you would have to turn left to stay on Kernan. You would go straight to turn on FCTP. That is if the roads are changed.


Sorry, I was talking about going south. Going south, you'd go straight through the light to stay on the 6-lane "new Kernan". You'd take a right to head into campus via "old Kernan". Coming north from JTB, you'd go straight to stay on new Kernan and would have to make a left to take "old Kernan" into the campus.

To get a visual take a look at the master plan when you get a chance (page 8).

http://www.unf.edu/uploadedFiles/anf/masterplan/2010_-_2020_Master_Plan/SMALL%20REDUCED110110_UNF_Final%20Report_v10.pdf

As I say, Kernan currently isn't straight there; it bends west. But people recognize it as the natural run of Kernan Blvd.; most people don't veer off onto FCTP if the light's red. The rerouting would make Kernan bend east, but it would still be the natural run of Kernan. I doubt any more people would veer off onto old Kernan than currently veer off onto FCTP.

Actually, you WOULD have to turn right to go onto Kernan coming from JTB. If you kept going straight you would be on FCTP. (if the road changed)

EDIT: After looking at the master plan realignment, I noticed the change. The road would continue straight and you would have to turn left for FCTP. You were  right.