Mothballing legislation rolls toward city council...

[sheclown]

June 21st.

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php?topic=9809.0

How grateful Preservation SOS is -- for the hard work that the Lisa Sheppard and Jason Teal put in on this proposed legislation.  

We are so grateful that...



Bill Killingsworth went for a walk with us:

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php?topic=9848.0

and that the HPC set up a subcommittee to tackle the problem

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,9512.0.html

The journey starts the week before in the budget committee.  

We will be keeping a close eye on this -- cheering it on as it makes its journey!

[sheclown]

We've had enough of this

[Ocklawaha]

Bravo Bill! Viva Springfield!

VIVA!


OCKLAWAHA

[iloveionia]

Whoot!  Whoot!

[Noone]

June 21st.

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php?topic=9809.0

How grateful Preservation SOS is -- for the hard work that the Lisa Sheppard and Jason Teal put in on this proposed legislation.  

We are so grateful that...



Bill Killingsworth went for a walk with us:

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php?topic=9848.0

and that the HPC set up a subcommittee to tackle the problem

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,9512.0.html

The journey starts the week before in the budget committee.  

We will be keeping a close eye on this -- cheering it on as it makes its journey!

sheclown was there any heads up about the house on the corner of Washington and Beaver next to Hogans Creek? Its completely gone and leveled.

The grren one is the only one left.

Just thought that you may know.

[sheclown]

Nope.  We can hardly keep up with the ones in Springfield. 

I'm sorry to hear about old homes getting knocked down, historic district or not.

[Noone]

Thanks for the response back.
Whats the Readers Digest version for having a building demolished?
Is there a Springfield list?
Just thought that structure had potential.

[iloveionia]

Where to start.
There is a list of "unsafe structures" for Springfield.
Other neighborhoods too.
Our list is huge, boasting over 130 homes.
Being on the unsafe structure list doesn't mean the house will get demolished, even though it sure seems like it.
MCCD can demolish a structure for safety reasons.  Historic or not.  Safety takes precedence over history.
The non-existent formal track destroyed MANY homes in Springfield: homes that owners forgot about, abandoned, and left uncared for that MCCD got tired of and abated the "nuisance" through demolition.
That is why we pushed for an inbetween alternative: mothballing.
An owner can request demolition.  If it is historic it is supposed to go before HPC.  If not, it's a gonner.  Currently, MCCD does not need a COA for demolitions.  Emergency demolitions are carte blanche. 
That's the best Reader's Digest version I could do.
What is the address of the house?  I can research and request information if you can pass it along.

[sheclown]

Noone--usually someone wants it demolished.  And it is our experience that when someone is pushing for it to go down, it goes.

Reasons:
1.) owner is being fined by the city b/c someone else calls COJ to complain, (see # 2-4)
2.) neighbors are tired of the eyesore and call city (see #1)
3.) social reasons -- can't get rid of the people around it or in it, so it gets knocked down.(see #1)
4.) there are future plans for that space so campaign begins against it (see #1)

Justification
1.) it is unsafe.
2.) it has been in the system for too long.
3.) owners are not cooperating
4.) structure is being used for illegal activity

[Debbie Thompson]

And...regarding Justification #1 above, let's just say that some city department's definition of "unsafe" and a preservationist's definition of "unsafe" may differ wildly.

For example, one house was put on "formal track for demolition."  Testimony said a piece of the tin roof was coming loose and flapping.  That's unsafe?  Really?  Something that could be fixed with a handful of nails is a reason for a house to go down?

Another house has already been approved for demo mainly because of a hole in the roof.  Much of it is over a back porch.  It can be patched.  But it's been approved for demo. It is in no danger of falling down.  In fact, it's a fourplex that could be easily rehabbed into a beautiful little apartment building.  We're looking like crazy for someone to buy it and agree to rehab it before the demo happens.

[Noone]

WOW! I truly have a greater respect and understanding for what you are trying to attempt. There is that part of me with property rights too. Finding the balance.

The building on Hogans creek was a 1959 1400 sq' duplex. Every time I would drive by I'd think of how cool to be upstairs and you could rent kayaks and give tours downstairs.

the real estate number is 0733440000 and the permit for demo was B11437138. 

The permit was pulled May 13th and the demo finished May 26th

I understand that there will be a bus tour promoting vacancies and wanting people to move Downtown and open businesses and to Live, Work and Play. Its not happening on Hogans Creek. WHY?

Wait until I share with all of you the Gator permit issued by the Maxwell House Plant May 11 and the 6.5 gator pulled out on May 15th. I saw the trap. The Maxwell House Plant a 100 year old corporate presence and the first alligator permit issued to the company. WHY? Because too many people are having fun kayaking on a Downtown Urban Waterway Destination. Instead of promoting the wildlife lets promote my shopping cart depth meter chart. At least that's still there and the tire in the Mulberry tree. Who's next to paddle Hogans Creek? We'll make it a demo paddle. We'll sink a shopping cart.

Hope to see some of you at Art Walk.

[sheclown]

JULY?

[sheclown]

paperwork was submitted yesterday and hopefully, it will be introduced in August.

[iloveionia]

Recreation, Community Development, Public Health and Safety Committee Meeting, today at 2 p.m.
PASSED 6:1 (Schellenberg)

Land Use and Zoning Committee Meeting, today at 5 p.m.
PASSED 7:0

Bill Killingsworth, Lisa Sheppard, and Jason Teal are the Mothballing heroes for Springfield.
Thank you for all your support and hard work for this intervention.

2011-408 goes to Council Tuesday night.

[sheclown]

Jason Teal introduces mothball legislation to LUZ this evening.