Is the City Hoarding Historic Light Poles?

[Noone]

jdog, That is an excellent idea. It can happen.

[Debbie Thompson]

Are we talking about the real historic light poles (like the ones in the image above) or the newer faux duplicates?

I was talking about the faux duplicates.  But real ones would be so much better.  :-)

[Dog Walker]

Those old light posts are made of cast iron and with a little sand blasting and painting would look great and last forever.  Look how long they have lasted with no care.

OCK,  was there a streetcar line that ran down Park Street?  I thought it went down Oak St or do you mean that the street lights were suspended from an overhead grid?

[Ocklawaha]

Yes, we have accurate maps of the Jacksonville Street Railway Systems.

1912-1936, This was the lifespan of the Jacksonville Traction Company. Streetcars pre dated that with a myriad of companies operating in the city from the mid 1870's until the early around 1900 when the Jacksonville Electric Company took over and began to consolidate the various companies. Quite a few miles were abandoned as they rationalized the routes then went back into a building mode. In the end over 60 miles of route and over 100 miles of track covered the city. Bay, Monroe and Union Street car lines, all crossed the rail yards by Maxwell House.

Duval seems to have been a temporary streetcar route, one that was removed early on. Funny because Duval and Beaver in combination with Lafayette or Randolph makes the most sense today for an entertainment loop.

Be glad to paddle Hogans Creek, but do you really want that Titanic experience?


OCKLAWAHA

[Ocklawaha]

Those old light posts are made of cast iron and with a little sand blasting and painting would look great and last forever.  Look how long they have lasted with no care.

OCK,  was there a streetcar line that ran down Park Street?  I thought it went down Oak St or do you mean that the street lights were suspended from an overhead grid?

The Riverside/Ortega, Seaboard-Lackawanna and Murray Hill Car Lines all ran through Riverside.

From the Union Station the lines covered Bay Street From Myrtle to Florida Avenue (today's A.P.Randolph). South of Bay one line ran down Riverside (over the old Acosta Viaduct) to ELECTRIC AVENUE (today's Edison) hence

CAMP JOHNSTON / ORTEGA / FAIRFAX / AVONDALE / RIVERSIDE / BROOKLYN LINE

Edison to Oak to King to St. Johns to ABERDEEN to Herschel to Grand to Baltic to Baltic Cir to Manitou to Ortega Blvd to near the ACL RR to Albemarle to (Black Point on the ST. Johns River - CAMP JOHNSTON/FOSTER/NAS JAX)

MURRAY HILL / RIVERSIDE LINE

Bay to Myrtle to Edison to Dellwood to Margaret to Myra to Stockton to College to (the west side of the ACL Railroad - CSX) to Edgewood to (on Edgewood to the corner of Colby)

SEABOARD - LACKAWANNA SHOPS LINE

Bay to Riverside to Edison to Mc Duff to Warrington (named for the Seaboard President BTW) to about Day Ave.

There was also a short extension on McDuff to Lenox but it is unknown how it was used/if ever. Until about 1968 the grand junction at Edison and Dellwood and Myrtle was still very visible in the street with the rails above the asphalt level. Today that site is under the new BIG I interchange.

Nothing on Park, however LEE STREET north of Park did have a car line on it. Funny they understood way back in 1900 that twas better to have a single car line down the middle of Oak, with Park on one side and Riverside on the other, then it was to choose either Park or Riverside at the risk of alienating the other.


OCKLAWAHA

[Dog Walker]

So the posts on Park must have been for lights.  Wonder what they looked like.

I always thought the Murray Hill Line ran up Dellwood to Stockton not Myra; thanks for the correction. 

There was a row of storefronts on Margaret between Edison and Forest St. (the new Animal Care and Control Building is on one of the sites) and I always thought that one of the lines ran past them too which is why they were there.  TOD!

[riverside_mail]

Definitely went up Myra. Go take a look and see how much wider it is than Dellwood to make room for the tracks. The railroad ties are still under the street. I've seen them when JEA was working on water lines.

[Springfield Girl]

There were more decorative, metal light poles lining the residential streets in Springfield originally. There is still one left on E. 5th St. I heard when I moved to the neihborhhod ten years ago that the city had taken them down and had them in storage. Nothing would surprise me. The old Kings rd. marker was taken down years ago and just turned up when some city workers cleaned some long ignored storage area. It was cleaned and placed in San Marco. The people involved just won a preservation award last month.

[iloveionia]

I've seen the one on E. 5th.  Glad to know what it is.  It's placed in an odd spot that I thought the homeowner placed it there.  Springfield Girl who would be a go to person to find out where these are, IF they are still around?

[John P]

Rumor has it that the city has all of the light poles stored in some warehouse.

Check the 200 block of Confederate Street.

[fieldafm]

There are about 6 of those real historic light poles on Ortega Blvd.  Just drove past them this morning.