Obama is Renewing the American Sense of Identity. Unbelievable to Watch

[RiversideGator]

More on the Obama/Wright connection from Stephen's beloved National Review (founded by WFB):

Left in Church
Deep inside the Wright Trumpet.

By Stanley Kurtz

Since repudiating his former pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., at an April 29 news conference, Barack Obama has done everything in his power to minimize the nature of his relationship with Wright. Supposedly, Obama found Wright’s recent and controversial remarks at the National Press Club shocking, unfamiliar, and out-of-character. In fact, we now know that Wright’s controversial remarks were entirely in character, and that regular church attendance, and even limited familiarity with church publications, would have made Wright’s radical views entirely evident. Indeed, a bit of digging now turns up information that makes it next-to-impossible not to conclude that Obama has long been familiar with Wright’s radicalism.

As Obama himself notes in a 2004 newspaper interview, within the constraints of his schedule, he regularly attended weekly services at Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ. In that interview, Obama characterized his relationship with Wright as that of a “close confidant.” We know that the doctrines of “black-liberation theology” are included in new-member packets, and are taught in new-member classes, which Obama and his wife attended. It now emerges that over the years, Obama has worked closely with Wright on a number of political projects. Finally, we can now conclude that Obama had to have had knowledge of Wright’s radical and highly political church magazine, since Obama himself was interviewed for a 2007 cover story for that publication.

Read the rest of the extensive article here:  http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MjRhNDQ4MGFlYjk0YzUwNDk0MzYyNTE1ZDkwYmNmNDc=

[RiversideGator]

Geraldine Ferraro may not and Joe Lieberman (both former Democrat VP nominees) will not be supporting Obama in the general election against McCain.  Ferraro also calls Obama a sexist:

Geraldine Ferraro, calling Barack Obama "sexist," may not back him

Might fully one-third of the six surviving Democratic vice presidential nominees end up opposing their party's national ticket this November?

Former Democratic vice presidential candidate Gerladine Ferraro says she might not vote for the frontrunner for her party's presidential nomination, Barack Obama That possibility arose today based on comments Geraldine Ferraro, the 1984 Democratic veep candidate, made to The New York Times.

Sen. Joe Lieberman, who occupied the No. 2 slot for the Democrats in 2000, months ago declared for presumptive Republican White House nominee John McCain.

And Ferraro, a staunch Hillary Clinton supporter who sparked a brouhaha earlier this year over whether she made a racially dismissive remark about Barack Obama, apparently is no longer a reliable Democratic vote.

Ferraro, in the NYT story, terms Obama "terribly sexist." And, as a result, she says she may not be able to cast her ballot for him if, as anticipated, he gains the Democratic presidential nod.

On the positive side for Democrats, no signs of apostasy are emanating from the four other one-time party veep candidates still alive -- John Edwards (the '04 nominee who officially signed on with Obama last week), Al Gore (the nominee in 1992 and '96), Walter Mondale (the 1976 and 1980 nominee) and Sargent Shriver (George McGovern's running mate in 1972 -- they may have gotten trounced by the GOP's Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew pairing, but their longevity is impressive).

-- Don Frederick

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/geraldine-ferra.html

[Driven1]

In that interview, Obama characterized his relationship with Wright as that of a “close confidant.” We know that the doctrines of “black-liberation theology” are included in new-member packets, and are taught in new-member classes, which Obama and his wife attended. It now emerges that over the years, Obama has worked closely with Wright on a number of political projects. Finally, we can now conclude that Obama had to have had knowledge of Wright’s radical and highly political church magazine, since Obama himself was interviewed for a 2007 cover story for that publication.

ouch...that is pretty stinging RG...i had not heard such solid evidence.  i was "questioning" of the whole thing before, but this really puts it into perspective.  i agree - you don't just go to church every Sunday (or every 5th or 8th Sunday foir that matter) and not get a strong feeling for what a pastor believes. 

people, "Obey Obama" at your own peril. 

[Driven1]

no-uh.  he is racist.  i cannot support a racist president.  lol  "none of it matters" - - WHO CARES IF HE IS RACIST???

here is the best candidate...

[Driven1]

i heard obama has a love child out there somewhere.  and she is white.

[RiversideGator]

If by "conservative" you really mean "liberal" you would be accurately describing Hagel.  And up is down too.  What a joke!

[Driven1]

Hagel is just trying to get the word out that there is a white love child out there of Obama's somewhere.   WE MUST FIND HER.  Amber Alert.

[Driven1]

ah.  Hagel now joins Warren Buffet in the League of the Secret Liberals!

um...it is no secret that Buffet is a liberal.  have you had your head in the sand for the past 5 years?

[Driven1]

here is who everyone should vote for NEXT BEST PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!

[Driven1]

John McCain.
He betrayed his country under torture and made propaganda videos for the Vietnamese

That is nothing compared to Obama burning down a suburban, mostly white Methodist church in his Neo Black Panther days.  I think that was the same night he fathered a white love child.  (i figured as long as we are making stuff up, let's get as creative as possible.)

[Downtown Dweller]

A lot can be said of McCain, but coward, traitor, and thieve just doesn't fit. Let's keep this on the "issues". Can we please pick at McCain’s issues and not denigrate a boy sent to fight for his country who happened to be captured and tortured worse than anything happening at Gitmo. I mean really, that is like poor people in America comparing their standard of living to a poor person in Darfur.  I am still waiting for someone to convince me that the Obama's are not a racist/elitist threat to our country. All I keep reading is how everyone else has issues, but no clear cut response to this racist/elitist labels?  Come on CONVINCE me he is the best candidate, put my mind to rest over these accusations...(BTW spell check comes back w/Osama everysingle time-is this a hint?)

[vicupstate]

A lot can be said of McCain, but coward, traitor, and thieve just doesn't fit. Let's keep this on the "issues". Can we please pick at McCain’s issues and not denigrate a boy sent to fight for his country who happened to be captured and tortured worse than anything happening at Gitmo. I mean really, that is like poor people in America comparing their standard of living to a poor person in Darfur.  I am still waiting for someone to convince me that the Obama's are not a racist/elitist threat to our country. All I keep reading is how everyone else has issues, but no clear cut response to this racist/elitist labels?  Come on CONVINCE me he is the best candidate, put my mind to rest over these accusations...(BTW spell check comes back w/Osama everysingle time-is this a hint?)

I agree  about McCain. The man is a bonafied hero, just like John Kerry.  It is depicable that either man has/had to defined their service to their country.

Dweller, don't you think that everyone that is propagating these accusations about Obama have an agenda of their own?

Why are they more trustworthy than the Obama's.  I too was disturbed by Rev. Wright's comments, but I think the conservatives merely smell blood in the water and want to make it that much bloodier, so they make up sh*t and send out SPAM.  It has been proven that such folks will play dirty, VERY dirty.       

[Downtown Dweller]

I agree on all accounts!!

I am just disturbed that we have all seen what this pastor is all about, they have gone to this church for a looong time, and the only defense they have put forward that I have heard, is they had no idea he had this type of stance on race. I just find that hard to believe. I want to believe people aren't really like this, but when we are talking about the potential leader of the free world I want to have a little more assurance then what we have been given 

Everyone has a right in this country to make whatever comments they so choose to make (because of brave men like Kerry and McCain), but sometimes commen sense and good taste should be applied

[JeffreyS]

I think I would be more comfortable if Obama just admitted Wright is part of the political machine in Chicago that he needed to get started.

[thelakelander]

I'm sure many won't agree and I don't expect most here will.  I don't have a major issue with Wright's rhetoric.  Its probably because I'm black and I've heard many of these things first hand from my own family members and people in the hood over the years and I understand where that point-of-view comes from even though he uses the wrong platform and has a bad way of getting his message across by mixing up some truths with tales.  Take a black history course or listen to some of MLK's speeches during the 60s and you'll hear just as many "shocking" statements and point of views from a minority based perspective.

For example, I understood the God Damn America rant and agree that the way we treat others can come back to negatively affect us.  However, the government created Aids thing is a stretch.  Nevertheless, when I first started hearing the Wright clips on Fox News, the first thing that popped up in my head was....wow, the truth hurts.  Heck, I even understood where Michelle Obama was coming from about the proud American statement.  On the other hand, I do have a problem with the prospect of putting a 72 year old in the white house that had issues with MLK day.  Primarily because we've been down this road before.  Nevertheless, I don't equate any of it to being Anti-American.  If anything, it just shows how different our points of views towards certain issues can be from a racial perspective.

Regarding Obama and Wright's church, I doubt the guy (Obama) even attends church on a regular basis.  Considering he's a Senator, I can't imagine him being in church and attending all the services and scheduled events like a religious fanatic.  He seems to be the type who drops his kids off at church with a little money for the collection plate, while he goes fishing, home to sleep or to the sports bar to watch whatever game comes on that day, when he's in town. 

So as I see it, does he agree with Wright on everything.  Most likely not.  I don't agree with everything I hear, from my family, friends, people on this website and even what I hear at the church I attend.  I'm my own person and smart enought to develop my own opinions, so I expect that Obama, Billary and McCain would all be the same.