Rick Scott's Veto List $615 Million

[Jimmy]

Sometimes the cure feels worse than the disease.  But you're right, stephendare, we're on our way out of this wilderness.

[wsansewjs]

Let's not make it sound like Florida is the only state doing this. And let's not villify Rick Scott being the only governor making tough cuts.

I am a graduate of a small campus of the State University in New York. It's a democratic state, with a democratic governor. They're having a lot of trouble up there too, like every other state, and there's cuts being made.

I know because I keep getting letters, and even phone calls, from the college soliciting my donations to make up for lost funding.

I think if the UNF alumni are so passionate for their school, as they seem to be in this thread, than the solution is to make up for the lost funds with donations, fund raisers, etc. like my alma mater is doing.

I love Rick Scott.  He delivered us from the possibility of Mayor Hogan, and he is going to guarantee that the right wing republicans in charge of the state house are going to get turned out on their ears in the elections.  He may even be personally responsible for giving Florida to President Obama.

He is truly a historic person for the Democratic Party.

Eehhh, I am confused from reading this, because I am in a battle between of assuming if you were being sarcastic or being blunt.

-Josh

[cityimrov]

Basic money for renovations or building constructions isn't going to kill a system.  If you've been to a university, you'll notice they have a TON of space compared to it's usage compared to other places.  

If you go to a city like prosperous city like Tokyo, you'll see they still manage to do a ton of stuff with space that would make most of us go crazy.  There's one room with like 20 people and those 20 people manage to create pretty innovative stuff.  You don't NEED a gigantic building to build cool stuff.  It is nice to have but not absolutely necessary.  What really matters is the culture of the organization and how they deal with things.

Your complains will probably be valid soon enough but as of today, as of right now, this is not the area where you should complain about.  Renovations and building constructions (unless absolutely positively necessary) can wait.  It's when they cut programs, systems, and employees is when these complaints will be valid but not now.  

If you want a big example of how this can work, look at Wal-Mart!  They manage to operate one of the country's largest companies in a dinky little building that Sam Walton build ages ago.  For some reason, Wal-Mart doesn't have a problem attracting suppliers to them even with that!  

[JeffreyS]

It is not just what these cuts will do it is seeing that far right republicans are chipping away at education funding every year. Good or Bad times are when they cut education.  If private is what they want just be honest and try to win people over to your point of view.  Everyone else please stop falling for the joke of an argument that you can cut funding every year and make it work better and better.

[fieldafm]

Seeing as though I'm a little more familiar with the deal than your expert googling skills, I will state again... FSU did not bring this about.  This is, after all, a FOR-PROFIT school(and will remain as such) that came to FSU with tons of money in hand and asked them to more or less be an administrative advisor... which FSU's involvment turned out to be something different than the original intention with the dual enrollment program.


Don't portray Baron as a hero in the faculty scandal.  He only reinstated these guys by court order.  If he was a hero, his first order of business would have been to regain control of the school from Big Money and unilaterally reinstated these guys.

[CityLife]

Seeing as though I'm a little more familiar with the deal than your expert googling skills, I will state again... FSU did not bring this about.  This is, after all, a FOR-PROFIT school(and will remain as such) that came to FSU with tons of money in hand and asked them to more or less be an administrative advisor... which FSU's involvment turned out to be something different than the original intention with the dual enrollment program.


Don't portray Baron as a hero in the faculty scandal.  He only reinstated these guys by court order.  If he was a hero, his first order of business would have been to regain control of the school from Big Money and unilaterally reinstated these guys.

Logic and newspaper stories dictate otherwise. If FSU was on board with Digital Domain "officially" as early as September 2009, doesn't logic dictate that FSU would play a large part in everything that happened with the project after? Don't you think FSU played a large part in securing the $20 million in state dollars in October 2009? What about the $10 million grant from WPB? "We are doing something mighty," said West Palm Beach City Commissioner Kimberly Mitchell, an FSU graduate. "The fact that it gets to be my alma mater is so great." Yea having an alum on the City Council and a strong alumni network in politics had nothing to do with getting the public $....

Despite what an administrator from UNF told you, the project doesn't happen without FSU. Notice Digital Domain didn't partner with UNF on the project, despite UNF having a pre-exisiting Digital Media program? That is all my original point was in the first place anyways. UNF isn't on the level with FSU or UF. Not sure why you are wasting your time arguing this.

Speaking of Google researchers...not even going to discuss the Barron issue with someone who didn't even know what happened until 5 minutes ago and found out through poorly written articles.

[fieldafm]

Logic and newspaper stories dictate otherwise.

Well, they are clients of mine so...

not even going to discuss the Barron issue with someone who didn't even know what happened until 5 minutes ago and found out through poorly written articles.

Seeing as though I keep in close contact with two of my former professors who were those that were part of the group summarily laid off so...

I find that you learn a lot more by listening to people than you do searching the internet to try to tell them they were wrong.

[CityLife]

Logic and newspaper stories dictate otherwise.

Well, they are clients of mine so...

not even going to discuss the Barron issue with someone who didn't even know what happened until 5 minutes ago and found out through poorly written articles.

Seeing as though I keep in close contact with two of my former professors who were those that were part of the group summarily laid off so...

I find that you learn a lot more by listening to people than you do searching the internet to try to tell them they were wrong.

Digital Domain is a client of yours? If so they think that the second best university in the state of Florida didn't help them acquire the public investments which helped them open up? They think UNF is a better institution than FSU?

Are you saying Koch had professors laid off? Again, Barron was not President when the contract with Koch was signed and he also doesn't make every personnel decision at the university.

[urbanlibertarian]

From PolitifactFlorida:
Gov. Rick Scott says state debt is $23 billion

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/jun/13/rick-scott/gov-rick-scott-says-state-debt-23-billion/

Where does he get that number?

Our search for the state debt level starts with Scott spokesman Lane Wright. He directed us to a December 2010 report on Florida's debt affordability, written by the State Board of Administration's Division of Bond Finance. The division is responsible for executing bonds authorized by the Legislature and administers financing programs for educational facilities and transportation projects, among other programs.

As of June 30, 2010, the state's total overall debt outstanding stood at $28.2 billion.

Now, this doesn't mean Scott's figure is off from the get-go. That $28.2 billion figure includes $23.6 billion for "net tax-supported debt" and $4.6 billion for "self-supporting debt."

These are important differences to understand (page 7 of the document is helpful).

Net tax-supported debt, which Scott seems to reference in his TV interview, is debt accrued when the state issues bonds to raise money for spending on projects such as PECO, Everglades restoration, right-of-way acquisition for roads and bridge construction.

Self-supporting debt is made up of bonds that include a source of revenue, and is excluded when calculating the state's benchmark debt ratio. Examples of this are bonds to build toll roads, covered by the tolls, or university dorm maintenance, covered by student fees.

Net tax-supported debt is paid off through the state's ability to tax all residents and tourists, while self-supporting debt is paid off by the people who pay to use the facilities.

The rest of the article has some pretty interesting info about state debt.  You know, for freaks like me who are interested in those things.