Council Passes Mobility Plan Unanimously.

Started by TheCat, May 24, 2011, 07:25:11 PM

iMarvin

Quick question: How will they get the money?

iMarvin


RiversideLoki

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iMarvin

It really is because, to think how much that will change the landscape of the city and the metro area. It shows how much we are progressing. It's really, really great.

Ocklawaha

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YES!



With Love

OCKLAWAHA!

Charles Hunter

Now if we just keep them from enacting a "moratorium" on mobility fees to "encourage jobs".

JeffreyS

So right Charles and we need to start letting the council and Mayor know we expect this to be lived up to.
Lenny Smash

dougskiles

This is great news.  Kudos to Bill and the council for recognizing the value.

From what I hear, the bill for moratorium on concurrency will most likely die.  The sponsor, Jack Webb, was just voted out of office.  But it certainly doesn't hurt to let your councilman know that you don't like it.

acme54321

If there is going to be a streetcar and communter rail in 5 years someone better get cracking  ;D

Ocklawaha

Quote from: acme54321 on May 25, 2011, 07:13:40 AM
If there is going to be a streetcar and communter rail in 5 years someone better get cracking  ;D

If one is funding through the Federal Government you'd not only be right, but it would probably take another 5 years. Self funded streetcar lines can be built almost as fast as bus routes can be changed. A look at the historic TU papers in the library system demonstrates this...April "announcement of new subdivision"  November "line to subdivision opens".

OCKLAWAHA

thelakelander

Regarding the mass transit component of the plan, from what I understand, the skyway extension to Atlantic Blvd in San Marco was removed because of fear that the bad air around the system could potentially take down the entire mobility plan.  Thus, that $21 million the plan dedicated to it, has been shifted to help speed up the contruction of the streetcar line between downtown and Springfield (Shands).
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Kiva

Quote from: thelakelander on May 25, 2011, 08:43:53 AM
Regarding the mass transit component of the plan, from what I understand, the skyway extension to Atlantic Blvd in San Marco was removed because of fear that the bad air around the system could potentially take down the entire mobility plan.  Thus, that $21 million the plan dedicated to it, has been shifted to help speed up the contruction of the streetcar line between downtown and Springfield (Shands).
I think a streetcar line to Shands would be great.

cline

While I think this is great that it passed, we will not get funds without construction.  Considering the dismal state of the construction and development industry, we could be waiting a while.  It is a hell of a lot better than the current system though.

I think it would have been better to have higher trip lengths for the rural and suburban development areas so they would be paying a higher fee.  I think the model underestimates trip lengths for those areas.

Captain Zissou

Quoteink this is great that it passed, we will not get funds without construction.  Considering the dismal state of the construction and development industry, we could be waiting a while.  It is a hell of a lot better than the current system though.

I agree.

What is the basis for the fee amount??  Is it a percentage of project cost? A per square foot fee?  Would retail have a higher fee than residential due to the higher number of people coming and going??

I of course realize the underlying basis for the fee has to do with density and the zones, but I was just curious about the particulars of how individual fees are calculated.

thelakelander

The way I see it, we take one step at a time.  Go ahead and get the policy adopted and implemented (happening now) and then continue to work to modify codes, regulations and concepts to help stimulate additional private sector development.  As the economy improves funds will grow.  So at the end of the day, I'll think we'll be fine.

Regarding the mass transit projects, there's no reason we can't implement some of them for a much cheaper cost than what has been set aside for them in the mobility plan.  Perhaps our focus should be on doing more with less, in regards to funding, construction strategies and opportunities to pool mobility money with other funding mechanisms.  Also, when a little money comes in, i think it should be released to go ahead and get the necessary engineering and design process for these corridors completed, ASAP.  At least this way, we'll have "shovel ready" projects available to go if unexpected funding opportunities comes along.

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali