New Talleyrand Terminal Opens

Started by thelakelander, May 09, 2011, 09:36:47 AM

thelakelander



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Keystone Industries slogged through a years-long legal battle with the Jacksonville Port Authority after JaxPort sought to acquire property owned by Keystone in the Talleyrand area of Jacksonville.

Keystone faced skeptical questions about the viability of its plans for the property, on the former site of an abandoned paper mill.

But with that lengthy dispute squarely behind the company, Keystone put the finishing touches on the opening phase of construction by accepting its first shipment last week at the terminal.

A ship from Vulcan Materials unloaded 66,000 tons of limestone that came from Mexico and will be used for construction-related projects throughout North Florida.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/business/2011-05-09/story/new-talleyrand-terminal-be-used-ship-coal-construction-materials-around#ixzz1LrVyreK5
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hillary supporter

Red tape aside,great news for our city. Our shipping facilities will define us as a leader into the 21st century! Our next mayor must be prepared to manage these facilities for all Jax s future.

johnnyroadglide

I am wondering though, how will the coal and other items get to the ships to be loaded and sent overseas? I am thinking probably by rail since there is track that goes right into their property. So that will mean more coal trains and other heavy loads rumbling through Panama Park, Phoenix and Talleyrand. I wonder how many more? Just saying...
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urbaknight

Quote from: hillary supporter on May 09, 2011, 09:51:42 AM
Red tape aside,great news for our city. Our shipping facilities will define us as a leader into the 21st century! Our next mayor must be prepared to manage these facilities for all Jax s future.

Hogan did mention in some detail, what needs to be done with the port and how long we had to prepair. If he's the next mayor, and he completes the port in time, I would be impressed. If that's all he achieves, it would be better than nothing. Granted, I want him to do lots more, but I doubt he will.

thelakelander

Quote from: johnnyroadglide on May 09, 2011, 11:05:21 AM
I am wondering though, how will the coal and other items get to the ships to be loaded and sent overseas? I am thinking probably by rail since there is track that goes right into their property. So that will mean more coal trains and other heavy loads rumbling through Panama Park, Phoenix and Talleyrand. I wonder how many more? Just saying...

By the Norfolk Southern rail line that used to serve the old paper mill and phoshate terminal.  Those trains probably won't go through Panama Park (that's CSX's line) but they will go through Longbranch, Springfield and Durkeeville on their way out of town.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

thelakelander

I think we're dropping the ball in terms of what the port could ultimately be.  In cities like Oakland, their ports also have mixed use developments providing quality housing, commercial, cultural and entertainment uses for the thousands employed at their terminals.  Here, we treat the areas surrounding our port facilities more like a dump.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

bornnative

I totally agree, but one problem we face is the huge cost of taking a brownfield industrial site and converting it to be suitable for residential or retail/commercial use.  Not to say it can't or shouldn't be done, but it's tough.

As we've all here been screaming for years, our best chances for an integrated, mixed-use waterfront (in the macro sense, not just downtown or Mayport) is the Shipyards property and the stretch of riverfront along Heckscher that includes the Bostwick trust and Zion properties.  Personally, I'd love to see some new residential and retail/commercial neighborhoods (NOT subdivisions, but actually integrated neighborhoods) spring up east of the Jax Zoo.

thelakelander

^I was speaking in regards to the adjacent neighborhoods like Longbranch, Eastside, Phoenix and Fairfield (ex. east of Springfield/west of Talleyrand Avenue).  I know we have some isolated brownfield industrial sites scattered throughout the core but there seems to be no plan for these areas in general.  For example, streets like 21st and 8th should be lined with businesses catering to the major economic generator nearby.  It would also be interesting to see if private companies like Crowley have invested in areas surrounding their other terminals.  I have a feeling we're missing a huge opportunity here.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

johnnyroadglide

Quote from: thelakelander on May 09, 2011, 12:16:29 PM
Quote from: johnnyroadglide on May 09, 2011, 11:05:21 AM
I am wondering though, how will the coal and other items get to the ships to be loaded and sent overseas? I am thinking probably by rail since there is track that goes right into their property. So that will mean more coal trains and other heavy loads rumbling through Panama Park, Phoenix and Talleyrand. I wonder how many more? Just saying...

By the Norfolk Southern rail line that used to serve the old paper mill and phoshate terminal.  Those trains probably won't go through Panama Park (that's CSX's line) but they will go through Longbranch, Springfield and Durkeeville on their way out of town.
You are right there lakelander. After I took a look at the aerials I realized that is NS track that runs up there from the old F&J Yard.
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus (Never Tickle a Sleeping Dragon).