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Started by Jimmy, April 13, 2011, 05:48:36 PM

Jimmy


FayeforCure

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Quote from: Diane Melendez on April 14, 2011, 02:23:58 PM
Faye,can you vote in this election?  I think you said you cannot so I take your arguments are largely based on what you would like to see happen to the Democrat party at the state and national level.  Since you do not live in Jacksonville I am guessing that you may not really know the ins and outs of the local political landscape.  

Well, you know how it is Diane........I do all my shopping in Jacksonville, my children attend college in Jacksonville, I go to the dentist in Jacksonville, heck I even visited Solantic on San Jose (oopsie)

Oh, and might I add that I still use Jacksonville in my address?

I also often walk across the Jullington Creek bridge to Mandarin Park...........that is if I'm not jogging across with one of my four daughters. Still keeping up just fine, if I say so myself.

So yeah, I certainly don't have any local interests except for wanting light rail on San Jose  ;D

It's all about that quality of life for us locals!!

BTW, I became plenty aware of the ins and outs of the local political landscape, when Peyton signs were plastered all over my street early 2003. Hey my neighbors even held a fundraiser for him.

Good to know Peyton doesn't like Hogan much, so I may not see any of those signs in my street this year.
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wsansewjs

Quote from: FayeforCure on April 14, 2011, 02:44:04 PM
It's all about that quality of life for us locals!!

Exactly! This is the 'eureka' reason why I am involved with the local politics. My progressive blindness has forced me off the road into public transit and paratransit services where it suck so bad. I want to help and improve it so bad after visiting few excellent walkable cities with amazing transit system.

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

Timkin

If he voted AGAINST historic preservation, then I am satisfied with my choice, even if my choice does not favor it.


I love Diane to pieces.. I hope all of you will forgive me for saying, it seems like you are ganging up on her.. I don't like her choices either ,but I'm not going to stop being her friend, for it.  Just saying... we all are still going to have to live in this City afterward. some are going to be happy with the election ( I hope )  some will not .   Some will not regardless of who wins.  God knows I am far from being perfect.  That award would go to my "old friend" the M-trainwreck ;)

But Diane is a good soul.  So is Glorious.  Their choices are theirs .   


Diane Melendez

Thank you Timkin.  I appreciate your friendship as well so very much.  I have given my opinions about the race for Mayor and what I think is the best course of action. I have said repeatedly, every one must make their own decisions and then vote and I hold no ill feelings toward anyone who backs a different candidate.  I have said all I need to say on the subject.  Thanks everyone for the opportunity to share a different viewpoint. 

CS Foltz

Kids..............I think that zero will equal zero! Neither of the two rock me at all ........talk is real real cheap and I want someone to show me something besides lip service!

Timkin

I really must agree with you CS.   Neither are the best choices.  They are what is left.  Alvin seems to be the lesser of the two... I wont say evils , because I don't think either man is evil, per se.. certainly not like Scott.. That man creeps me out .. he has a cold look in his eyes... HE is the one you need to be worried about.. we will all be cleaning toilets because of HIM.  I think Hogan is simply going to follow protocol, as evidenced by his budget-cut agenda. Thus the "Hogan=Scott"  theory.


mtraininjax

QuoteAlvin seems to be the lesser of the two...

You would vote for someone with less history in Jacksonville than Peyton. Amazing, Brown would spend the first two years trying to figure out how to govern. Get the man some political credibility first, get him on the city council, get him on the JTA, get him somewhere other than telling everyone the same thing Carlucci did 8 years ago, before he flipped flopped to the Dems, " I want to put Jacksonville to work". Yeah, and we already heard the empty suit promises from Peyton of running the city like a business.

Brown has to earn the right to be on the mayoral stage, to me, he has not done that, and therefore is not worthy of my vote. 
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

JeffreyS

This history in town, local experience, insider club, GOB argument isn't carrying much weight given how so many feel about the last thirty years of leadership here.
Lenny Smash

Jaxson

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 15, 2011, 09:05:43 AM
QuoteAlvin seems to be the lesser of the two...

You would vote for someone with less history in Jacksonville than Peyton. Amazing, Brown would spend the first two years trying to figure out how to govern. Get the man some political credibility first, get him on the city council, get him on the JTA, get him somewhere other than telling everyone the same thing Carlucci did 8 years ago, before he flipped flopped to the Dems, " I want to put Jacksonville to work". Yeah, and we already heard the empty suit promises from Peyton of running the city like a business.

Brown has to earn the right to be on the mayoral stage, to me, he has not done that, and therefore is not worthy of my vote. 

I do not understand how working on issues that affect New Orleans or New York are supposedly so foreign to us in Jacksonville.  It seems like that old "We don't care how you do things where you're from" attitude that makes us look like we are backwards and provincial.  I would support good ideas no matter where they came from.  Our insular and incestuous leadership has not proven itself to be perfect leaders.  We can choose to live in an echo chamber that rejects 'outsiders' and choose to perpetuate a system that has set us on our current course, but I do not buy the excuse that time spent in Jacksonville makes someone omnipotent.  Why don't we change the city charter to require that mayoral candidates be born and raised in Jacksonville and that they live in Jacksonville with no breaks in residency.  Of course, that would have ruled out the current mayor.  But we tend to be selective with whom we give a pass.  I believe that there is nothing Alvin Brown can do to impress some skeptics.  After all, like I said before, Nat Glover had the Jacksonville connections and actually had leadership experience - yet he did not get elected.  I do not understand city politics.  Yuk!
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

Timkin

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 15, 2011, 09:05:43 AM
QuoteAlvin seems to be the lesser of the two...

You would vote for someone with less history in Jacksonville than Peyton. Amazing, Brown would spend the first two years trying to figure out how to govern. Get the man some political credibility first, get him on the city council, get him on the JTA, get him somewhere other than telling everyone the same thing Carlucci did 8 years ago, before he flipped flopped to the Dems, " I want to put Jacksonville to work". Yeah, and we already heard the empty suit promises from Peyton of running the city like a business.

Brown has to earn the right to be on the mayoral stage, to me, he has not done that, and therefore is not worthy of my vote. 

Well then don't vote for him M-train .. anyone holding a gun to your head ,making you vote for him?

Jaxson

John Louis Meeks, Jr.

JeffreyS

I am voting best candidate regardless of whether he is a made man of the GOB network.  I love the 904 that does not mean all worthy and competent people in the USA have been a local 904 political insider.
Lenny Smash

iMarvin

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Quote from: Jaxson on April 15, 2011, 09:37:18 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 15, 2011, 09:05:43 AM
QuoteAlvin seems to be the lesser of the two...

You would vote for someone with less history in Jacksonville than Peyton. Amazing, Brown would spend the first two years trying to figure out how to govern. Get the man some political credibility first, get him on the city council, get him on the JTA, get him somewhere other than telling everyone the same thing Carlucci did 8 years ago, before he flipped flopped to the Dems, " I want to put Jacksonville to work". Yeah, and we already heard the empty suit promises from Peyton of running the city like a business.

Brown has to earn the right to be on the mayoral stage, to me, he has not done that, and therefore is not worthy of my vote. 

I do not understand how working on issues that affect New Orleans or New York are supposedly so foreign to us in Jacksonville.  It seems like that old "We don't care how you do things where you're from" attitude that makes us look like we are backwards and provincial.  I would support good ideas no matter where they came from.  Our insular and incestuous leadership has not proven itself to be perfect leaders.  We can choose to live in an echo chamber that rejects 'outsiders' and choose to perpetuate a system that has set us on our current course, but I do not buy the excuse that time spent in Jacksonville makes someone omnipotent.  Why don't we change the city charter to require that mayoral candidates be born and raised in Jacksonville and that they live in Jacksonville with no breaks in residency.  Of course, that would have ruled out the current mayor.  But we tend to be selective with whom we give a pass.  I believe that there is nothing Alvin Brown can do to impress some skeptics.  After all, like I said before, Nat Glover had the Jacksonville connections and actually had leadership experience - yet he did not get elected.  I do not understand city politics.  Yuk!

It really shouldn't matter that they're from Jacksonville, it should just matter that they are here to move Jacksonville forward and hopefully they have examples of how they did it in the past. He has two examples for two completely different cities. That's all the proof I need. He has a strong passion for Jacksonville and isn't just gonna sit in a chair and just cut funding for no reason. He clearly is the best candidate because he doesn't like wasteful spending but he also wants to get things done. He wants things to happen here and Hogan just doesn't care about this place. All he wants to do is cut taxes, bomb abortion clinics, and sell preservation land. Brown isn't for tax raises either but he wants to progress and turn us from a 20th century into a 21st century city. He cares about this place. It doesn't matter if he's from here because even people from here, born and raised, could care less about Jacksonville.

FayeforCure

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• 135,000 jobs from moving Medicaid to a state-run program

• 113,065 construction jobs from Scott stalling SunRail contract

• 1,849 in layoffs from Department of Children and Families, as outlined in Scott’s proposed budget

• 20,000 teacher layoffs, per Scott’s budget proposal

• 49,900 job losses for rejecting high-speed rail

• 1,690 jobs cut from state prison system


Totalling around 325,000 jobs lost!!!!

Do we want to extend a similar shrinking tax base for Jacksonville?
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
Basic American bi-partisan tradition: Dwight Eisenhower and Harry Truman were honorary chairmen of Planned Parenthood