Mike Hogan = Rick Scott | Read the thread...

[hillary supporter]

Diane,

I believe you to be a sincere person, but how do you know Hogan isn't just telling you what you want to hear?  Has he shared more of his 'agenda' with you that gives you that confidence?  He hasn't shared much with the public.

Also, even if Hogan supports DT and the issues the typical MJer supports in his heart, don't you think the Tea Party/Unions/Westside crowd will steer him away from that?  They ARE the foundation of his support after all.  

I realize politics makes strange bedfellows, but you, Glorious and "Tea Party" represent a strange one indeed.  

Hogan will abandon the Tea party quickly as many of the experienced tea bag endorsed politicans have (see Mark Rubio and his immigration platform), i do believe he will do good for Jacksonville. I just believe Alvin will do much better things for the future of the city. Alvin is a golden opportunity for jacksonville. His ideas are so "out of the box" that insiders in jax politics(i.e. Diane) cant accept his 21st century vision.

[mtraininjax]

His ideas are so "out of the box" .... cant accept his 21st century vision.

Funny, I heard the same thing 8 years ago in Peyton. No thanks.

[vicupstate]

There is still plenty of love between Rubio and the Tea Party.  Rubio does a very good job of manintaining their support while not sounding like Michelle Bachman.  I expect him to be a VP or POTUS candidate either next year or four years later.

Hogan was Tea Party before there was a Tea Party, that is not going to change if he wins.   

Mtrain, Peyton said the same things 8 years ago that Hogan is saying now.   

[mtraininjax]

Mtrain, Peyton said the same things 8 years ago that Hogan is saying now.

I have yet to hear how Mike plans to run the city like a business. When and If he says that, let me know. Or if he says "That $115 will save the future of Jacksonville". You know stupid stuff that gets you quoted for life. Here we are 62 million in the hole and Peyton leaving the next mayor worse off than when he arrived.

Do we really want a guy with no local political experience "learning" on the job like Peyton did 8 years ago? Sure 8 years ago, we had a better economy and no holes in the dam to fill, but now, we have some MAJOR issues with our budget, not the time to call up a rookie from the minor leagues.

[Jimmy]

When I hear mtrain and Diane spinning the same soundbites, in support of the same candidate I know two things.

1) the end is near, and

2) I'm on the right side of the debate.

[mtraininjax]

When I hear mtrain and Diane spinning the same soundbites, in support of the same candidate I know two things. 1) the end is near

You and the Mayans might be on to something here.....

[Diane Melendez]

You may be onto something Jimmy!   

[FayeforCure]

Mtrain, Peyton said the same things 8 years ago that Hogan is saying now.

I have yet to hear how Mike plans to run the city like a business. When and If he says that, let me know. Or if he says "That $115 will save the future of Jacksonville". You know stupid stuff that gets you quoted for life. Here we are 62 million in the hole and Peyton leaving the next mayor worse off than when he arrived.

Do we really want a guy with no local political experience "learning" on the job like Peyton did 8 years ago? Sure 8 years ago, we had a better economy and no holes in the dam to fill, but now, we have some MAJOR issues with our budget, not the time to call up a rookie from the minor leagues.

Well you know how it is.........Republicans think it's A-ok to put a Republican without any public service experience in office, time and time again: John Peyton and Rick Scott.

But Democrats are held to a higher standard, even if they have the federal level connections that could land us some major federal grants.

Besides, as an economist myself, I value Alvin Brown's MBA compared to Mike Hogan's bachelors in zoology.

After all, an economy does best:

Not by government programs alone, but a mix of the private and public sectors.

[Jaxson]

Mtrain, Peyton said the same things 8 years ago that Hogan is saying now.

I have yet to hear how Mike plans to run the city like a business. When and If he says that, let me know. Or if he says "That $115 will save the future of Jacksonville". You know stupid stuff that gets you quoted for life. Here we are 62 million in the hole and Peyton leaving the next mayor worse off than when he arrived.

Do we really want a guy with no local political experience "learning" on the job like Peyton did 8 years ago? Sure 8 years ago, we had a better economy and no holes in the dam to fill, but now, we have some MAJOR issues with our budget, not the time to call up a rookie from the minor leagues.

Sounds like what we did with Rick Scott...  Faye beat me to it : )

[Diane Melendez]

Jimmy, I don't know if this helps or not.  For me this election is bigger than party labels and has more to do with what is healthy for Jacksonville in the next few years.  We are going to tank if we don't get past the party mentality in the current election.  Isn't that what Moran kept saying?  I agreed with her about that.  Supporting a candidate for local office from another party should not make or break support for the qualified and experienced candidate.

I am staying as far away as I can from the discourses about Scott, Tea Party or topics and soundbites and looking mainly at skill set of the candidates and their experience.  
Scott is not on the ticket, nor is Al Gore or Bill Clinton all with their own associations who will undoubtedly show up on the political landscape of folks in the same party.  They don't mean that much to what happens locally.  Not nearly as much as people would hope.

[Jaxson]

If this is not a national election, why does Hogan keep bringing up national issues (e.g. gun control, abortion, etc.)?

[FayeforCure]

Jimmy, I don't know if this helps or not.  For me this election is bigger than party labels and has more to do with what is healthy for Jacksonville in the next few years.  

Yeah, and more of the same certainly isn't it!!

If you want to chase out everyone who is not part of the GOB network, you'll continue to get the same.

What was that definition of insanity again?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

[Jimmy]

I am staying as far away as I can from the discourses about Scott, Tea Party or topics and soundbites and looking mainly at skill set of the candidates and their experience.  

Well, now you're just telling stories.  You couldn't stay off the Tea Party facebook page while you were promoting Mike Hogan to them.  I had to chuckle when they kept referring to you as a "washed up Democrat" as you were on their page, with them, pushing Mike Hogan.  And now you want to disavow all connection to the Tea Party.  That is a rather self-serving change of tactic!

[Diane Melendez]

Faye,can you vote in this election?  I think you said you cannot so I take your arguments are largely based on what you would like to see happen to the Democrat party at the state and national level.  Since you do not live in Jacksonville I am guessing that you may not really know the ins and outs of the local political landscape.  Alvin Brown is currently being supported and groomed by some of the oldest members of the Jacksonville GOB landscape.  That is a fact.  Brown is looking for money and support from the same old power structure that has influenced local politics here for years.  He is more of the same, just packaged differently.

[Diane Melendez]

touche Jimmy.  I did post my views about the candidate I am supporting, but I have no association with the tea party.