Delores Weaver now backs Brown for Jacksonville mayor

Started by Jaxson, April 11, 2011, 09:20:31 PM

wsansewjs

Is Delores and Wayne married? If so, why are you guys calling her Miss?

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

Garden guy

Quote from: wsansewjs on April 12, 2011, 11:08:43 AM
Is Delores and Wayne married? If so, why are you guys calling her Miss?

-Josh
It's a southern thing i guess...i call all women ms...or missy if they are sexy...maybe a family thing i don't know....it is used in the most respect for women...

avonjax

Hogan is appealing to his base, which means being completely regressive. He may not be as politically bad as we all think, but history is not on his side. Someway and somehow, Republicans have convinced much of the population that taxes are evil, progress is the result of the devil and the president is Satan. All a Republican candidate has to say is, "I'm against raising taxes," or, " I will cut taxes," and he or she gets another thousand votes. These, in my opinion, are criminally fraudulent statements. I agree that taxes should only be raised when absolutely necessary, but cutting them, especially in the current recession is ridiculous. And yes there has to be controlled spending, but you can't cut taxes and ever expect to break even or better yet have a surplus. Just look at what Bush and Crist did to Florida in the last 12 years. Yeah they cut taxes and refunded the surplus, but the expense has been devastating to our state and city. (And please note I said "cutting taxes," not raising them.)
Mr. Hogan will not go into office and be a different mayor than what he is preaching to his base. He will NOT improve Jacksonville. Remember Peyton promised to run the city like a business, (a joke to me by the way) and like a business the city needed capital to run. (Unless of course you want 4 to 8 years of decay.) But instead of raising taxes when money was needed, the solution was to fee us to death. IT'S THE SAME THING, JUST A DIFFERENT NAME.
So even if he has good intentions for the city, he will have to pander to his base. If not he will not only damage himself, but the future party candidates. And if anyone is paying attention most of his party will abandon their ideology for political solidarity.

Doctor_K

Here we go:

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2011-04-11/story/wayne-weaver-backs-hogan-mayor-after-delores-weaver-picks-brown
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Wayne Weaver backs Hogan for mayor after Delores Weaver picks Brown
Both one-time Audrey Moran supporters, their political split is not unusual
Posted: April 11, 2011 - 7:30pm
By Jim Schoettler, Timothy J. Gibbons

They both were once with Audrey. Now Jaguars owner Wayne Weaver is with Republican Mike Hogan for Jacksonville mayor, while his wife, Delores, is supporting Democrat Alvin Brown.

Wayne Weaver, a Republican, told The Times-Union this morning that he met with Hogan at Hogan’s request for more than an hour last week. He said they talked about everything from improving Downtown to supporting education.

Weaver said he appreciated Hogan's Republican values. He said he came away satisfied Hogan would hire a good staff and be good leader and ambassador for the city.

“I wouldn’t be supporting him if I didn’t believe that,” Weaver said. “Delores and I are committed to this city. It has to move forward to continue to be a great city.”

Along with his vote, Weaver said he has donated to the Hogan campaign, though he declined to say how much. Weaver and his wife contributed at least $60,000 to the Moran election effort.

Weaver said it is not unusual for there to be a friendly spousal split with his wife when it comes to supporting political candidates. He said the couple discussed both mayoral candidates, though he declined to detail those talks. He described his wife as an independent.

“I'll just say it's not the first time," Weaver said. "She really has connected with Alvin."

Delores Weaver told The Times-Union Monday she hasn't yet decided if her support for Brown would be financial. Weaver said she is backing Brown because his views are similar to Moran's.

"From the night of Audrey Moran's concession, I knew that I could never vote for Mike Hogan, who is just too, too, too far right for me," Weaver said.

On the other hand, even though Brown is a Democrat, he's not a liberal, she said, and has ideas that closely track those of Moran, who is a Republican. She said she still believes Moran would have been the better mayor.

Although the Times-Union reported Sunday that the Weavers were not committed to candidates, she said Monday she had supported Brown since the night Moran finished third, while her husband said his meeting with Hogan swayed him. Wayne Weaver declined to comment until today.

One major issue for both: the candidates' views on what should be done with downtown. Brown supports the re-creation of a downtown development authority; Wayne Weaver said he appreciated Hogan's push for private/public partnerships to improve the area.

Hogan was not immediately available to comment. Brown said he was excited to have Delores Weaver's support.

"She loves this city and cares about its future," he said.

Looks like a re-branding of the headline from the original story though.
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JeffreyS

Color me disappointed. Is Wayne hedging his bets, just voting for the R or really believe Mr. Hogan is the best for the job?  Really. Lost some respect today for Mr. Weaver today.
I was perfectly happy to cross the partisan line thinking Audrey was best for this city.
Lenny Smash

JeffreyS

Honestly Mr. Weaver your new candidate doesn't even have the spine to show up for more than what his advisers view as the bare minimum of public debates.  When he does show he is a dear in the headlights out of his depth.

Disclaimer: I will always love Mr. Weaver as the most benevolent citizen this town has ever had. I thank him very much for bringing the Jags here. 
Lenny Smash

Timkin


Seems like the GOB network is still alive and well  :(

wsansewjs

Quote from: Doctor_K on April 12, 2011, 12:41:16 PM
Looks like a re-branding of the headline from the original story though.

Does that make you really suspicious? Look at the overall perspective. Hogan is playing a game of waiting then snatching attention. If Brown or a supporter of Brown goes first, Hogan or a supporter of Hogan would come in and sugarcoat it with their ideal to influence a bubble of "HOGAN EVERYWHERE" , or the impression that Hogan is MORE popular or BIGGER than Brown is.

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

Timkin


Captain Zissou

It sounds to me like Hogan is trying to recruit as many GOB's as possible.  Maybe Wayne is aware of this, so he's trying to build leverage with Hogan.  With Sleiman and Weaver in his corner, Hogan will have to do a lot to downtown in order to pay back his supporters.

If the right GOB's step forth for Hogan, it might be a good thing for DT.  

*Let me express that I don't like this style of campaigning or politics, but I'm trying to make some serious lemonade here.  I like and respect Wayne Weaver, so I am assuming whatever his motive is, it's noble.  I'm just trying to figure out what that motive is.

vicupstate

Most of the time politics is not about party or even idealogy, but protecting one's own bottom line.

No matter who wins, the winner will 'owe' a favor to a Weaver. Nothing mysterious going on.   
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Timkin

Guess Im just learning then.  It is just a really broad statement (to me at least) to be informed in a post that Mike Hogan is going to be the next Mayor . No ifs and or buts.   That is why I say it just looks fishy.. Hogan did not get the majority vote in the primary, but all of a sudden its in the bag??

Timkin

I do too...  One's color is a non-issue.  But I don't speak for the majority.

I-10east

What does this all mean for the state of the Jaguars? A house divided politically? Doesn't sound good for the future of the franchise. JK.

Diane Melendez

#74
Timkin, Nothing in politics is ever a certainty and odd things do happen.  But there is a world of things that go on in politics that can give one a pretty good indication of where things are headed in a campaign.  This has more to do with fixed voting habits and powerstructures than anything else.  We saw a break down of power groups in the first round of this election when there were three Republicans splitting that vote.  The Dem vote was also impacted by Morans presence in the race.  That has all changed and we are down to two candidates.  Using historical data, voter turnout and current public sentiment, Hogan is the indicated winner.  Of course the votes have to be counted and everyone has the chance to campaign strongly for the candidate they choose.  May 17th will give us the final answer.  

Also, I don't think this is a choice of candidate based on race but experience.