Delores Weaver now backs Brown for Jacksonville mayor

Started by Jaxson, April 11, 2011, 09:20:31 PM

Jaxson

Quote from: ChriswUfGator on April 12, 2011, 08:20:27 AM
Well "redneck" is a bit more nuanced than just location...

There is often an excessively large pickup truck involved too.

Amen, Chris.  Perhaps a serious case of overcompensating?  LOL!
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

ChriswUfGator

You know I always suspected that. Until they came out with those chrome ball-sac's that hang from the trailer hitch, which became a huge fad here in Jacksonville in the mid-2000s. That kind of took the 'suspected' out of the equation. Lol...


Steve_Lovett

Quote from: Diane Melendez on April 12, 2011, 01:31:53 AM
I am not going to argue your logic Stephen because many of your points are valid and a result of our differing personal perspective on some issues, like the Peyton legacy.  

All things are possible in the world of politics.  I will just say that the Hogan campaign has not taken anything for granted and are working aggressively for votes in all areas.  I personally just don't see any possible way for Alvin to gain the name recognition in a few short weeks that the Mike Hogan family has earned over the decades.  The Moran name is also well known in Jacksonville.  Brown is still mostly an unknown.

Jacksonville has grown immensely in population in the past 10-12 years.  Those who have moved to Jacksonville in that timeframe (me included) may not know Mike Hogan's qualifications to be Mayor other than how he engages the community during his pursuit of office.  If he wishes to become Mayor, I think he should take every opportunity to engage in public dialogue and be available to answer questions about his vision for the city in a civic forum.  At minimum, he owes it to the constituents that he will lead if elected. 

fsujax

He isn't going to do it. The least said the better for him. People will still go out and vote for him. Sad, but true. Maybe enough of the newbies to town will actually go out and vote. That may be enough to overcome the Westside and far Northside votes.

Timkin

Quote from: ChriswUfGator on April 12, 2011, 08:26:29 AM
You know I always suspected that. Until they came out with those chrome ball-sac's that hang from the trailer hitch, which became a huge fad here in Jacksonville in the mid-2000s. That kind of took the 'suspected' out of the equation. Lol...

Yeh,,,,,,about that,,,,,, What is the point of that ,any way..  "Mah truuuk has balllz" heheheheh

Garden guy

I want him to show up so we can all see that he supports the end and decline of our city...he and his party has made decisions that have screwed our city many times...the city should know him and the ills of those who support him....

Jaxson

Quote from: Timkin on April 12, 2011, 08:57:31 AM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on April 12, 2011, 08:26:29 AM
You know I always suspected that. Until they came out with those chrome ball-sac's that hang from the trailer hitch, which became a huge fad here in Jacksonville in the mid-2000s. That kind of took the 'suspected' out of the equation. Lol...

Yeh,,,,,,about that,,,,,, What is the point of that ,any way..  "Mah truuuk has balllz" heheheheh

Timkin, you are a Heineken in a Pabst Blue Ribbon world! And that's a good thing ; )
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

Timkin


FayeforCure

Quote from: Diane Melendez on April 12, 2011, 01:23:19 AM
Thanks Timkin. Glorious remains very busy with her remaining council term and her mother, who has had a good couple of weeks recently.  Spoke with her earlier and her mom was out getting some sunshine.  Good days are very welcome to Glorious. To say things are difficult in that regard would be an understatement.

Stephen has been generous in inviting me to post and share my thoughts.  I just want to respect everyone's space here and at the same time only comment when I really feel strongly about a particular topic.  I did want to get some clarity out to people regarding my views and position in the current mayor race.  

Metrojacksonville does urban, tranportation and other planning issues at a level that I admire and support, but don't have alot to say about other than be engaged by the possibilities of the ideas discussed.  Social and political issues I have a little more to say about. LOL  I have also been doing my best to introduce the ideas on the Metrojacksonville main page to the Hogan camp and have found receptive ears.  



Hi Diane, back in 2004 I first looked into joining DWIN (Democratic Women Information Network), even though I do not live in Duval county  ;)
I even announced my own candidacy at a women's event in Jacksonville.
And though I have seen a lot of "pragmatism" used as an excuse for Democrats to support an arch conservative candidate, I am truly shocked to see a DWIN member doing it.

The "pragmatism" worked out well in the case of Charlie Crist, because he truly had a listening ear. But there were signs he wasn't an arch conservative anyway, even during his candidacy for governor.

I did not vote for him in that election though, I voted for Rod Smith.

However when Charlie Crist ran for US Senator, I did vote for him.

I just don't see how the same can be said about arch conservative Hogan:

QuoteYou can tell a lot about mayoral candidates Mike Hogan and Alvin Brown by visiting their campaign websites.

This is where they are unfettered in saying what they want about themselves. What they choose to say first says something about their priorities.

Each of the websites has a section on issues. The following are the first four things listed by Hogan in that category.

- Taxes. Hogan says he will not support any tax increases or new fees. He also lays claim to a "proven tax-cutting record" while he was in the Legislature.

- Second amendment. Hogan says he fought on behalf of gun owners, opposing legislation that would regulate gun shows and supporting a bill prohibiting state and local governments from suing gun manufacturers. He touts an "A" rating from the National Rifle Association.

- Illegal immigration. Hogan says his efforts as tax collector "to root out fraud and abuse have resulted in the arrest of illegal aliens with criminal records who were trying to obtain driver's licenses." He pledges to continue his efforts as mayor.

- Protecting the sanctity of life. Hogan says he "firmly believes in protecting the life of the unborn" and that he "will never back down from his commitment to compassionately stand for the sanctity of life."


http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/400601/ron-littlepage/2011-04-02/compare-alvin-brown-and-mike-hogan-check-websites

I guess Shelton Hull is right about lack of Democratic leadership support for Democratic candidates  ::)

I personally find that shameful.

Of course I would have voted for Audrey Moran if I lived in Duval, but now that she is no longer in the race........there is only one choice left. Plain and simple.

Voting for a moderate Republican for reasons of pragmatism is a whole lot different than voting for an arch conservative.

Again, I am truly shocked, and I hope you hear from fellow DWIN members.

I guess your loyalty to Glorious and her political ambitions outweigh getting a change of direction going in Jacksonville, to make Jacksonville a destination, not just a pass-through.
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Doctor_K

Wayne Weaver said on the WOKV morning news program that he was throwing in with Hogan.  

Can't find anything in print (real or virtual) yet to corroborate that.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

Timkin

Well Faye, I think the world of both Glorious and Diane... I just happen not to agree with their choice for Mayor.

One statement I found disturbing was that Mike Hogan is Jacksonville's next Mayor.  It was like ..end of discussion, don't even bother to go to the polls , its not going to do any good.. And ... she may be right

HOWEVER...... I ll take my chances... Im still going to be at the polls and still going to vote Alvin.

Jimmy

I'm with you, Tim.  I'm not going to give up on Jacksonville just because people assure me that Hogan will be elected.  He might be.  But not without a hell of a fight on my end.  If he's elected, I'll deal with that unfortunate reality on May 18.  But for now, I'm doing everything possible for Alvin Brown.

Jaxson

Quote from: Timkin on April 12, 2011, 09:37:16 AM
Well Faye, I think the world of both Glorious and Diane... I just happen not to agree with their choice for Mayor.

One statement I found disturbing was that Mike Hogan is Jacksonville's next Mayor.  It was like ..end of discussion, don't even bother to go to the polls , its not going to do any good.. And ... she may be right

HOWEVER...... I ll take my chances... Im still going to be at the polls and still going to vote Alvin.

I have great respect for Diane and Glorious, but am dismayed with the attitude that we all have to just accept a Hogan victory.  This dismisses the whole point of having an election and gives rise to a serious problem in local politics.  The dearth of opposition to our leaders creates a mentaility in our elected officials that they have some mandate that permits them to be as ruthless (or crooked) as they want.  Why?  Because they're the only game in town.  I refuse to play along!
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

Timkin


Well-Put Jaxson.   That is why it is crucial this time around to prove them wrong.  I do NOT want to accept a Hogan victory..  My gut instinct is this will give us 4 more years of the same as before..

I agree with her that there has to be accountability in the Mayor's office.... and I think Brown can do that JUST AS WELL !

Garden guy

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I don't see it happening but one thing that would help Mr Brown is if Ms Weaver does a tour of the country clubs in town...sponsoring a talk by Mr Brown at each club to support him....think they'll ever happen.....probably not a chance but is a good idea since most of the things that change our city is done behind private club doors and not in the hall of the city.. there and the golf club...i wonder how many rounds of gold he's going to play at the local clubs maybe drumming up some business...are there any club members out there willing to sponcer?