Thoughts on the Race for Mayor

Started by Old Jim, March 22, 2011, 10:23:58 PM

futurejax

Quote from: NotNow on March 23, 2011, 06:21:37 AM
Quote from: futurejax on March 23, 2011, 12:04:47 AM
Quote from: NotNow on March 22, 2011, 11:50:54 PM
Quote from: futurejax on March 22, 2011, 11:44:04 PM
Quote from: NotNow on March 22, 2011, 11:33:46 PM
I understand.  I assume that many here will vote for Mr. Brown in the runoff.  I found his religious victory speech to be quite interesting.  Is he a "Jerry Fallwell" too?  Mr. Brown is an intelligent, articulate, and experienced individual.  I hope that you all can get past his religious nature and address his stance on the issues.

Hogan is a joke.  In 90% of all other cities with pops over 500K a joke about "bombing an abortion clinic"  would have meant certain doom.  His support is all right wing nutters.  He got about 50K tonight.  The rest of the votes were split among 4 people all with better intellects.  One of which was Brown.

Am I to assume that you now support Mr. Brown despite his publicly proud dedication to his religion?

Is your devil's advocate routine just that or are you a Hogan supporter?  I have no problem with his religious beliefs.  My problem with Hogan is that I fear ( I believe justifiably so) that he will insert those same religious beliefs when determining public policy.  I don' think Brown will do this.  Maybe I'm kidding myself but kinda doubt it.  The question is, what do you think?

I voted for Hogan, and will do so again probably.  I am not really impressed with any Mayor's candidate.  Mr. Brown is intriguing and I will study his message and his actions over the next few months.

What was it about his non-existant platform that so intrigued you?

John P

Hogan is not mayor yet. Maybe during the runoff people will actually mobilize to prevent him from becoming mayor instead of just talking or typing about it. Talking is easy but volunteering your time and energy is hard. If Mike Hogan does win then things will adjust accordingly for both good and bad. Overreaction to the result is common in emotional races whichever way they turn out. No need to overreact.








pwhitford

From today's Jacksonville.com article on the race:

Mike Hogan:  â€œWe’ve got a long ways to go, but this is an incredible feeling,” Hogan said. “To see all these folks here and know how many were with me 20 years ago, it’s an incredible feeling.”

So much of what's wrong summed up in one statement, and almost no one else seems to see or care just how wrong it is or why.  And my depression only gets deeper and deeper ...
Enlightenment--that magnificent escape from anguish and ignorance--never happens by accident. It results from the brave and sometimes lonely battle of one person against his own weaknesses.

-Bhikkhu Nyanasobhano, "Landscapes of Wonder"

JeffreyS

I am going to figure out how I can support the Brown campaign today.
Lenny Smash

tufsu1

Quote from: JeffreyS on March 23, 2011, 10:29:43 AM
I am going to figure out how I can support the Brown campaign today.

You can start by going to the Jacksonville Young Democrats meeting tonight....it will be held at Northstar Substaion on bay Street at 7pm....Alvin (along with the Riverkeeper) will be there

futurejax

Audrey can do something really great by throwing her support behind Brown. 

John P

Is the Riverkeeper seen as a democratic issue now? That's not good if it is.

tufsu1

Quote from: Captain Zissou on March 23, 2011, 10:21:17 AM
There is no other option but to do this ourselves, regardless of who wins the mayoral election.  Metrojacksonville needs to become an actual physical organization that champions historic preservation, environmental stewardship, urban development, and progressive government.  This could take the shape of a consulting firm, a 501C-3, a development group..... anything.  We need to organize and expand our influence.  I am 110% committed to this idea.  If you as well, contact me and we'll make it happen.

I'm with you CZ

wsansewjs

Quote from: Captain Zissou on March 23, 2011, 10:21:17 AM
The only positive (and this is a stretch) is that if Hogan is elected, he will give Tony Sleiman whatever he wants to develop the Landing.  After all the Sleiman has done for him, Hogan owes him big time.

Metrojax needs to get an audience with Alvin Brown and educate him extensively on what Jacksonville needs from their next mayor.  I am mildly depressed this morning due to the fact that I had been waiting for yesterday for 4 years, only to have my hopes shattered. 

There is no other option but to do this ourselves, regardless of who wins the mayoral election.  Metrojacksonville needs to become an actual physical organization that champions historic preservation, environmental stewardship, urban development, and progressive government.  This could take the shape of a consulting firm, a 501C-3, a development group..... anything.  We need to organize and expand our influence.  I am 110% committed to this idea.  If you as well, contact me and we'll make it happen.

I am all for it! I am a multimedia designer, so I can devote my volunteer time to make videos, websites, and print packages for the effort!

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

Doctor_K

Quote from: Captain Zissou on March 23, 2011, 10:21:17 AM
There is no other option but to do this ourselves, regardless of who wins the mayoral election.  Metrojacksonville needs to become an actual physical organization that champions historic preservation, environmental stewardship, urban development, and progressive government.  This could take the shape of a consulting firm, a 501C-3, a development group..... anything.  We need to organize and expand our influence.  I am 110% committed to this idea.  If you as well, contact me and we'll make it happen.

*Raises hand*

I'd like to help.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

Doctor_K

Quote from: futurejax on March 23, 2011, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: NotNow on March 23, 2011, 06:21:37 AM

I voted for Hogan, and will do so again probably.  I am not really impressed with any Mayor's candidate.  Mr. Brown is intriguing and I will study his message and his actions over the next few months.

What was it about his non-existant platform that so intrigued you?

His ability as an abstract thinker? ;)
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

JeffreyS

Quote from: John P on March 23, 2011, 10:34:49 AM
Is the Riverkeeper seen as a democratic issue now? That's not good if it is.

The Riverkeeper is nonpartisan but does not ignore political groups.
Lenny Smash

John P

Quote from: Captain Zissou on March 23, 2011, 10:21:17 AM
There is no other option but to do this ourselves, regardless of who wins the mayoral election.  Metrojacksonville needs to become an actual physical organization that champions historic preservation, environmental stewardship, urban development, and progressive government.  This could take the shape of a consulting firm, a 501C-3, a development group..... anything.  We need to organize and expand our influence.  I am 110% committed to this idea.  If you as well, contact me and we'll make it happen.

Good idea. Past time for this.

CityLife

Quote from: Captain Zissou on March 23, 2011, 10:21:17 AM
The only positive (and this is a stretch) is that if Hogan is elected, he will give Tony Sleiman whatever he wants to develop the Landing.  After all the Sleiman has done for him, Hogan owes him big time.

Metrojax needs to get an audience with Alvin Brown and educate him extensively on what Jacksonville needs from their next mayor.  I am mildly depressed this morning due to the fact that I had been waiting for yesterday for 4 years, only to have my hopes shattered. 

There is no other option but to do this ourselves, regardless of who wins the mayoral election.  Metrojacksonville needs to become an actual physical organization that champions historic preservation, environmental stewardship, urban development, and progressive government.  This could take the shape of a consulting firm, a 501C-3, a development group..... anything.  We need to organize and expand our influence.  I am 110% committed to this idea.  If you as well, contact me and we'll make it happen.

Captain Zissou, I've been talking about something similar to this with a few friends of mine for a couple months now. I think last nights election may have pushed us over the top.

Lets have lunch. I'll shoot you a PM.

NotNow

Quote from: futurejax on March 23, 2011, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: NotNow on March 23, 2011, 06:21:37 AM
Quote from: futurejax on March 23, 2011, 12:04:47 AM
Quote from: NotNow on March 22, 2011, 11:50:54 PM
Quote from: futurejax on March 22, 2011, 11:44:04 PM
Quote from: NotNow on March 22, 2011, 11:33:46 PM
I understand.  I assume that many here will vote for Mr. Brown in the runoff.  I found his religious victory speech to be quite interesting.  Is he a "Jerry Fallwell" too?  Mr. Brown is an intelligent, articulate, and experienced individual.  I hope that you all can get past his religious nature and address his stance on the issues.

Hogan is a joke.  In 90% of all other cities with pops over 500K a joke about "bombing an abortion clinic"  would have meant certain doom.  His support is all right wing nutters.  He got about 50K tonight.  The rest of the votes were split among 4 people all with better intellects.  One of which was Brown.

Am I to assume that you now support Mr. Brown despite his publicly proud dedication to his religion?

Is your devil's advocate routine just that or are you a Hogan supporter?  I have no problem with his religious beliefs.  My problem with Hogan is that I fear ( I believe justifiably so) that he will insert those same religious beliefs when determining public policy.  I don' think Brown will do this.  Maybe I'm kidding myself but kinda doubt it.  The question is, what do you think?

I voted for Hogan, and will do so again probably.  I am not really impressed with any Mayor's candidate.  Mr. Brown is intriguing and I will study his message and his actions over the next few months.

What was it about his non-existant platform that so intrigued you?

He seems to recognize that employment is a major factor right now in Jax.  I don't know how he would fund it, but his opinions on incentives sound about right to me.  He understands the importance of the port and the infrastructure requirements there.  He has a reasonable stance on city employee pay and pensions, and seems to understand the local situation and doesn't just spew the national anti-union talking points.  I'm not really big on his education ideas though.
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