Chat: Mayoral Debate - Growth and the Environment

Started by wsansewjs, March 03, 2011, 06:51:17 PM

Jimmy

Quote from: tufsu1 on March 03, 2011, 08:59:32 PM
well if Hogan and Mullaney make the runoff, one of them will need to move to the center
I cannot imagine any electoral math that would cause that to happen.

thelakelander

I think Rick needs to put more thought into his skyway moratorium point.  You don't need to shut it down for two years to figure out a plan to better utilize it or find out if you have to repay nearly $100 million for shutting it down for good.  These are things that could be discussed and figured out now before the next candidate takes office.  That way, you truly hit the ground running on day one in office.  Also, having a huge abandoned elevated transit line and closed stations all throughout your DT core can't be good for DT revitalization.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

aaapolito

#17
Audrey Moran ran circles around the others.  She has my vote right now.

The three topics that are tops on my list: Education, Transportation, and Downtown.  Moran hit all of these with great responses.

Regarding Mullaney, I initially liked his idea: we need to restructure the city's finances and not raise taxes and fees if we don't have to.  However, it seems to me that he never said what that restructuring entails.  Is it cutting jobs?  Cutting salaries?  Ending programs?  WHAT?  These are all unpopular things, and so it leads me to believe that he wants to do some of these things, but does not want to turn any voter away.  As the debate went on, he started to use this response as a crutch.   

JeffreyS

Quote from: tufsu1 on March 03, 2011, 09:27:46 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 03, 2011, 09:24:18 PM
Wow! Audrey just beat the rest of the competition to death on the issue of mass transit.

$70 - $90 million to repay the feds for shutting down the skyway!  Where is Stjr?


hmm...wonder where she got that information from?
I could see your guilty smile from here.
Lenny Smash

Jimmy

Quote from: thelakelander on March 03, 2011, 09:40:14 PM
I think Rick needs to put more thought into his skyway moratorium point.  You don't need to shut it down for two years to figure out a plan to better utilize it or find out if you have to repay nearly $100 million for shutting it down for good.  These are things that could be discussed and figured out now before the next candidate takes office.  That way, you truly hit the ground running on day one in office.  Also, having a huge abandoned elevated transit line and closed stations all throughout your DT core can't be good for DT revitalization.
I agree with this.  I don't know if Rick has thought through the consequences of some of his suggestions.  I know he's trying to tack hard-right on these questions to pick up the Hogan voters who are running for a new candidate.  But at some point you need to add a 35th point to your plan that gets to quality of life and keeping the structural pieces of revitalization in place.  

JeffreyS

How long before Rick calls the skyway Obama-rail?
Lenny Smash

tufsu1

Quote from: Jimmy on March 03, 2011, 09:36:36 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on March 03, 2011, 08:59:32 PM
well if Hogan and Mullaney make the runoff, one of them will need to move to the center
I cannot imagine any electoral math that would cause that to happen.

which is why Mullaney's strategy makes no sense...he's basically handed the center to Audrey alone

tufsu1

Quote from: JeffreyS on March 03, 2011, 09:42:21 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on March 03, 2011, 09:27:46 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 03, 2011, 09:24:18 PM
Wow! Audrey just beat the rest of the competition to death on the issue of mass transit.

$70 - $90 million to repay the feds for shutting down the skyway!  Where is Stjr?


hmm...wonder where she got that information from?
I could see your guilty smile from here.

not me :)

mfc

Tonite we got a look at jacksonville's next mayor , Audrey Moran. You could tell she was having fun and comfortable in her skin, smilin all the while. It was a big big win for her. Very exciting for the future!!!!wow!!

Dog Walker

I only caught about ten minutes of it on the car radio and only Moran and Mullaney were at all articulate, but Mullaney seemed to be doing the political tap dance around the questions while Moran seemed to be direct and unafraid of offending.

What that the way it was in the whole thing?
When all else fails hug the dog.


dougskiles

Quote from: thelakelander on March 03, 2011, 09:40:14 PM
I think Rick needs to put more thought into his skyway moratorium point.  You don't need to shut it down for two years to figure out a plan to better utilize it or find out if you have to repay nearly $100 million for shutting it down for good.  These are things that could be discussed and figured out now before the next candidate takes office.  That way, you truly hit the ground running on day one in office.  Also, having a huge abandoned elevated transit line and closed stations all throughout your DT core can't be good for DT revitalization.

I couldn't have been more pleased with how the discussion of the Skyway went last night.  Audrey has clearly spent more time thinking about how to link our urban neighborhoods together than the rest of the candidates combined.  Even Rick appeared uncomfortable talking about it and I could see the regret in his eyes of ever putting that point in his plan.

But what I loved the most was when Abel threw the $70-$90 million repayment back in his face by quoting Congressman Mica.  Great job last night, Abel.

I have a 1-point plan for Jacksonville's success:

1. Vote for Audrey Moran.

Miss Fixit

Quote from: dougskiles on March 04, 2011, 05:14:41 AM
I have a 1-point plan for Jacksonville's success:

1. Vote for Audrey Moran.

I like your plan dougskiles!  But I'll add part two:

2. Convince your friends - democrat, republican, independent - to vote for Audrey Moran.

She's clearly the strongest candidate - but look what happened in our gubernatorial race.  Please, if you have the time, volunteer for Audrey.  Talk her up whenever you have a chance.  We have a chance to move Jacksonville in the right direction - let's get it done!

wsansewjs

Audrey Moran has done her homework so well. It is kinda pathetic that there are few Duval voters who want to vote for Hogan because of his Baptist Church and/or Republican affiliation.

Political parties in this mayoral race DOES NOT matter. This is all about Jacksonville. This is our home. This is what we need to take back what was truly ours. Audrey Moran has shown that as her gleaming and beacon-like smile in the last night's debate.

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

fieldafm

QuoteI have a 1-point plan for Jacksonville's success:

1. Vote for Audrey Moran

Sometimes, the best plan is the simplest plan!

Is there an archive anywhere online where I can watch/hear the debate?