The Park View Pavilion Coming Soon

[Captain Zissou]

Good thing they put in that streetcar, or it could get tough to walk all the way from Macy's to Ikea.

[fsujax]

LOL! you guys are killing me!

[Timkin]

Any updates on this project?

This and the Laura Street Trio project are in the same corner of the Magic Kingdom. They are separated there by a long stretch of greenspace in front of the Courthouse. And that courthouse only cost $140 million!

In other words , hurry up and wait .. It aint happening.. The Courthouse was far more important.

[copperfiend]

Good thing they put in that streetcar, or it could get tough to walk all the way from Macy's to Ikea.

You could always take the gondola ride across the St Johns to get there.

http://www.metjax.com/forums/showthread.php?s=26c7c041e93d1045dfc280a1ec5a33ec&t=4947

[Captain Zissou]

Ohhhh MetJax.  What ever happened to Chipwich and some of the old folks.  I kept my name from the old days, did other people change names??

[PeeJayEss]

I know what a true mom & pop store is....as for the other figure of 30%, it's still 30% if tax revenue that isn't there now. Like I said before, I feel it would be beneficial to have a chain as the anchor and the rest with the little shops.

You're not going to create more purchasing by adding a huge chain, unless it draws more people. All the money going to Target or Walmart is money that would otherwise be going to some other business. So you don't gain 30%, you go from 70% to 30%. And actually its not even the same 30%. The economies of scale allow the big chain to charge you less for those goods. So you might spend a dollar at the mom and pop, and 70cents stays in town. Now, you'll spend 90cents at Walmart, and 27cents stays in town (30% of 90). You spend less and there is less profit taken in on a whole. However, all that profit goes to some dude in New York who has plenty of money instead of to a local small business owner who is able to make a living off it. Not to mention if you have only small businesses, you have more businesses which creates more options for employees (more competition by businesses for employees), and employees can get better wages (instead of having only one option - Walmart - and being forced to accept their terms).

And we might also consider that a small business owner is much more likely to invest some of their profits back into the local community. So yes, you have to pay a small business more to get the same product, but you get back more than just the product in return. You just don't think of it that way when you need a new pair of shoes.

Walmart is a city killer, not a city builder. That's why Walmart is the largest owner of vacant land in the country. I say don't try to draw in the big guys and their big parking lots. That's not going to create the downtown that draws people in. Let's just stay out of the way of small business owners and let them develop this thing organically.

That all said, I think this development could be great.

[civil42806]

I know what a true mom & pop store is....as for the other figure of 30%, it's still 30% if tax revenue that isn't there now. Like I said before, I feel it would be beneficial to have a chain as the anchor and the rest with the little shops.

You're not going to create more purchasing by adding a huge chain, unless it draws more people. All the money going to Target or Walmart is money that would otherwise be going to some other business. So you don't gain 30%, you go from 70% to 30%. And actually its not even the same 30%. The economies of scale allow the big chain to charge you less for those goods. So you might spend a dollar at the mom and pop, and 70cents stays in town. Now, you'll spend 90cents at Walmart, and 27cents stays in town (30% of 90). You spend less and there is less profit taken in on a whole. However, all that profit goes to some dude in New York who has plenty of money instead of to a local small business owner who is able to make a living off it. Not to mention if you have only small businesses, you have more businesses which creates more options for employees (more competition by businesses for employees), and employees can get better wages (instead of having only one option - Walmart - and being forced to accept their terms).

And we might also consider that a small business owner is much more likely to invest some of their profits back into the local community. So yes, you have to pay a small business more to get the same product, but you get back more than just the product in return. You just don't think of it that way when you need a new pair of shoes.

Walmart is a city killer, not a city builder. That's why Walmart is the largest owner of vacant land in the country. I say don't try to draw in the big guys and their big parking lots. That's not going to create the downtown that draws people in. Let's just stay out of the way of small business owners and let them develop this thing organically.

That all said, I think this development could be great.

Well I think you can relax, I do believe wal-mart will pass on the site, the competition with the Macys and Ikea would just be too much

[Captain Zissou]

Well I think you can relax, I do believe wal-mart will pass on the site, the competition with the Macys and Ikea would just be too much

Yeah right.


Neither of them will out bid Bass Pro.  Clearly you know nothing about the Springfield retail market.

[Miss Fixit]

Well I think you can relax, I do believe wal-mart will pass on the site, the competition with the Macys and Ikea would just be too much

Yeah right.


Neither of them will out bid Bass Pro.  Clearly you know nothing about the Springfield retail market.

Now THAT'S an idea!  Once we get Hogans Creek cleaned up Bass Pro will be a great fit for that location!

[Bativac]

Well I think you can relax, I do believe wal-mart will pass on the site, the competition with the Macys and Ikea would just be too much

Yeah right.


Neither of them will out bid Bass Pro.  Clearly you know nothing about the Springfield retail market.

Now THAT'S an idea!  Once we get Hogans Creek cleaned up Bass Pro will be a great fit for that location!

Be sure to leave room for a parking garage and the Southern Rock Hall Of Fame and Monster Truck Arena.

[PeeJayEss]

Well I think you can relax, I do believe wal-mart will pass on the site, the competition with the Macys and Ikea would just be too much

Ikea I could live with.

[ChriswUfGator]

Well I think you can relax, I do believe wal-mart will pass on the site, the competition with the Macys and Ikea would just be too much

Ikea I could live with.

The store, you can live with. Certainly not the cheap uncomfortable furniture, LOL

[Timkin]

Well... first things first.  Demolish the building.. it is a Deathtrap X 1,000,000!

[KuroiKetsunoHana]

Well... first things first.  Demolish the building.. it is a Deathtrap X 1,000,000!

people keep saying that, but as far as i can tell the only injuries related to the building are from when some idiot ran into it.

[Timkin]

OK... Its a hideous eyesore. Tear it down. Or do you disagree with that as well