HPC Agenda 7/2010

[uptowngirl]

I think they just want to build a bigger "splashy house" on the river and SRG is only too happy to help. My last thought on the subject was "well at least they are not in Springfield anymore". Call me cruel, but because of the status of the neighborhood, I am not sure anyone can do anything. IF the couple buying waits long enough and we can change the code, and they are not grandfathered in maybe. But if not ONLY getting the word out that this developer only works on tearing historic structures down to build new infill-without the cost oulay of infrastructure may make a difference. SAD!

Any consulation the whole back of the room groaned when they heard SRG, to the point some on HPS felt a need to comment on the fact they knew nothing about this nor had anything to do with it, and others to calrify certain historic groups fought TO demolish houses- look at the minutes from this meeting.

[Timkin]

Yes, but even this developer would surely want to save a few thousand on demolition costs by giving the house to someone who would pay to move it.. I dont know...maybe another of my pipe-dreams.. but seems there should be an alternative

[sheclown]

Timkin, you are absolutely right:

Preservation SOS ought to be all of the urban core!

[uptowngirl]

Timkin, you are absolutely right:

Preservation SOS ought to be all of the urban core!

Yep. I am already feeling the pressure- we need to help JAX save all it's history, all of it. As Stephen said tonight, how do you know who you are if you do not know where you came from.


In the meantime I will try to enjoy my national park around my house :-(

[iloveionia]

Agreed everyone.
Lisa Sheppard will continue to be our go-to person. 
The HPC is re-organizing the Condemned Properties Sub-Committee and they want us there.  They want our voice.  Everyone. 
It will be important to follow their lead, keep in regular communication, and attend the meetings they will have.  They have kick-butt ideas already, and our added input will make for and effective plan towards complete preservation.  I know this is going to happen.  I feel it. 
They did say the sub-committee would meet before the next HPC meeting.  They need their time to get their bearings straight and I know the community at large will be included.  What effects one, effects all.  We are in this together.

[Timkin]

Perhaps we need to form our own preservation system.  I mean, my hat is off to RAP , but their Jurisdicition is limited... We should have a City-wide preservation....and recognize all forms of historic landmarks... The Style of mid-century is certainly not up my alley, but I recognize it as historic.  At one time I was greatly in Favor of seeing the Haydon Burns Library go... I am not so sure I feel the same way about that now, having seen renderings of a proposed use for it.. I do not know if that will ever happen, but the point is , I saw it in a different light.

Annie Lytle is a completely different horse of a different color... THERE IS ABSOLUTELY no good reason this building should have been allowed to deteriorate to the point that it has... It may have needed repairs when it left the hands of DCSB, but the costs of those repairs would have been a fraction of what it will now cost... The mindset ( never to think outside this box)  was residential.  It did not happen 30 years ago, and as long as there is an interstate in front of it, it will never happen in the future..so then we must explore alternatives to this.

With regard to the many homes of Springfield that are suffering...my heart bleeds for them as much as Annie.. and the mindset of options MUST change for the sake of the neighborhoods.. Ryan and I ride through and marvel at the homes people have taken great pride in restoring and bringing back from far worse rack and ruin than School 4 ..  It can be done!

[iloveionia]

Timkin.
Email Lisa Sheppard.
sheppard@coj.net
she will forward to the commission members taking on this subcommittee.
communication of ideas is key!!

[Timkin]

Consider it done.

[Timkin]

I just need to be pointed in a direction , and I can take the ball and run with it..  I will definitely email Lisa ...have no problem with that at all..

How does this fit in with City Council? 

[sheclown]

We will need to work with a council member to introduce amended legislation once we have a consensus.  
Glorious Johnson would work well in that regard b/c she is at large and could represent all.  

She would need to work with the Office of General Council once we have ideas -- and that person would be Jason Teal, the man with the most experience in Springfield and code enforcement.  He would tell us what would work, legally and what wouldn't.  Then he would draft it.

Then CM Johnson would introduce it to the council.

The HPC would lobby for passage which would go a long way.  Preservation SOS would also meet with all council members to present this amendment and the necessity for it.  We would put info out to the public through forums, facebook, etc.

Then, when it goes before full council, it would be clear and everyone would be on board and it would pass with flying colors.

[Timkin]

Timkin.
Email Lisa Sheppard.
sheppard@coj.net
she will forward to the commission members taking on this subcommittee.
communication of ideas is key!!

DONE!   Got Auto-reply ...she is out of the office until Aug 3 ... contact Joel..

[Kay]

We will need to work with a council member to introduce amended legislation once we have a consensus.  
Glorious Johnson would work well in that regard b/c she is at large and could represent all.  

She would need to work with the Office of General Council once we have ideas -- and that person would be Jason Teal, the man with the most experience in Springfield and code enforcement.  He would tell us what would work, legally and what wouldn't.  Then he would draft it.

Then CM Johnson would introduce it to the council.

The HPC would lobby for passage which would go a long way.  Preservation SOS would also meet with all council members to present this amendment and the necessity for it.  We would put info out to the public through forums, facebook, etc.

Then, when it goes before full council, it would be clear and everyone would be on board and it would pass with flying colors.

My humble opinion is that you want the district councilmembers who represent the historic districts to be included.  We'll need to be politically strategic about this and the more members who introduce it the better.  Afterall, we'll want it to actually pass the Council.  So who will most councilmembers be swayed by or not.

[sheclown]

^ This is true.  We need to meet with Dr. Gaffney, CM Corrigan, who else?

[Kay]

My advice is to put together a strategy.  The first step is to work with the JHPC on the solution.  We should see if they will include one or two reps from RAP and SPAR (Springfield) on their committee.  RAP's and SPAR's executive committees are meeting in a couple of weeks to discuss common interests and concerns and set priorities.  Even if they don't include us on their actual committee we can propose solutions and changes.  Part of our planning will be to put together a political strategy.  Property rights are always a concern of councilmembers.   

Personally, I am thrilled that Springfield residents have come together to take this latest action with JHPC.  I also know that SPAR has changed course on demolitions with Louise's departure.     

[Springfielder]

P.S.  I did paraphrase two letters that AVS gave to me.  You were heard

Thanks to AVS for reading my letter...that's greatly appreciated!!