Patterson Apartments: They're Coming Down

Started by sheclown, July 25, 2010, 01:43:25 PM

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sheclown

July 25, 2010, 01:43:25 PM Last Edit: July 25, 2010, 01:57:00 PM by sheclown
342 West 10th Street




uptowngirl

#1
July 25, 2010, 01:52:56 PM
This is BS, just total BS and someone needs to move Elaine to the suburbs-period. It's just that simple!

sheclown

#2
July 25, 2010, 01:57:53 PM
Historic Preservation Commission minutes
April 28, 2010

uptowngirl

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July 25, 2010, 01:59:37 PM
SheClown, are there any minutes where the HPC actually said NO? I have as yet to see any, which is strange since they only exist to PRESERVE historic properties.

uptowngirl

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July 25, 2010, 02:03:44 PM Last Edit: July 25, 2010, 02:06:38 PM by uptowngirl
Quote from: stephendare on July 25, 2010, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: uptowngirl on July 25, 2010, 01:59:37 PM
SheClown, are there any minutes where the HPC actually said NO? I have as yet to see any, which is strange since they only exist to PRESERVE historic properties.

Wait a minute.

Are you guys saying that the Historic Preservation Commission has created a way to fast track demolitions of historic structures?  And this Elaine Lancaster is working with the Historic Preservation Commission to demolish them?

I am saying I have as yet seen one property Elaine has brought to them that they have said NO to. I have seen several meeting minutes on properties they could of easily have made an arguement to say NO, but instead chose not to. I esp enjoy the comments "its just that simple" in reference to taking down a 100+ old building. It should NOT be "just that simple", and those peeps should be removed from their post if that is their attitude. Demolition of a historic structure should be difficult, and take a lot of time, records, and thought.

sheclown

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July 25, 2010, 02:06:12 PM
I'll keep looking and post what I find.

strider

#6
July 25, 2010, 02:14:14 PM
Please note that no one, not Lisa Simon (Past SPAR Council board member, SRG favored real estate agent and current HPC member) nor Brenda Boydson (past assistant to Louise DeSpain, current Executive Director (Louise's replacement) of SPAR Council) said one word to oppose the demolition and in fact, Lisa voted for the demolition.

With the community of Springfield's "preservation" organization and one of Springfield's citizens sitting on the HPC both supporting and voting for demolition, we can not expect anything but demolition approvals from the HPC. SPAR Council and the HPC have just been basically doing Code Enforcement's bidding.
"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

sheclown

#7
July 25, 2010, 02:23:15 PM
Lisa  & Brenda did speak up for 1925 Liberty Street.

Brenda spoke about attempting to find a new owner and Lisa told the commission that the neighborhood was beginning to get upset about the number of demolitions.

It still was put on the Formal Track to Demolition with a deferment of six months time.  There is good info in here about what they can and cannot do.  Most alarming to me is a reference to "the 200" and it looks to me like a reference to a list of 200 Formal Track for demolition homes, but that is just conjecture.

uptowngirl

#8
July 25, 2010, 02:25:27 PM
Can we get the national group involved to help us put a stop to this? I have seen where they get involved in other neighborhoods.

sheclown

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July 25, 2010, 03:33:16 PM
Lisa & Brenda did speak up for 1647 Pearl Street as well.  You can "hear" the frustration in Lisa's statements. 

All it got was a small delay, but the demolition is still on.

uptowngirl

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July 25, 2010, 03:40:15 PM
Quote from: uptowngirl on July 25, 2010, 02:25:27 PM
Can we get the national group involved to help us put a stop to this? I have seen where they get involved in other neighborhoods.


Quoting myself LOL!

uptowngirl

#11
July 25, 2010, 04:01:36 PM
I am going to write to each and everyone of these contacts to see if we can get some help, it is clear we will not get it within the city or local preservation groups/boards.


http://www.flheritage.com/preservation/registration/fhc/

buckethead

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July 25, 2010, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: stephendare on July 25, 2010, 02:06:37 PM


Who is this Elaine Lancaster person?  Is she with Historic Preservation?

Code Compliance Enforcement Dept according to the minutes in one of these threads (specific title not mentioned).

It is astounding how nonchalant these people sound during these hearings.
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