321 E 5th Street: It's coming down!

sheclown · July 19, 2010, 04:40:29 PM

Quote from: jbroadglide on July 19, 2010, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: sheclown on July 19, 2010, 02:58:53 PM
The bank owns it and I think it may be too late. They have already cut the sewer lines.
Bank does not own it.
PEOPLES FIRST OF JACKSONVILLE LLC
6903 MERRILL RD
JACKSONVILLE, FL 32277
City has a pre-demolition inspection scheduled for July 30.

Thank you for that information.

We have 11 days to try to figure out how to save this house.

CS Foltz · July 19, 2010, 05:15:52 PM

sheclown .....who says it has to come down? Maybe start with your Council member? If they wish to be re-elected they might want to pay attention to their constituants! Maybe SPAR Council could get involved since they have a new paid director............might be time to earn their money! If you know any land use lawyers, an injunction should be easy to file at minimal cost!

sheclown · July 19, 2010, 05:51:30 PM

Quote from: CS Foltz on July 19, 2010, 05:15:52 PM
sheclown .....who says it has to come down? Maybe start with your Council member? If they wish to be re-elected they might want to pay attention to their constituants! Maybe SPAR Council could get involved since they have a new paid director............might be time to earn their money! If you know any land use lawyers, an injunction should be easy to file at minimal cost!

Good point, CS. Dr. Gaffney's email is: Gaffney@coj.net should anyone want to email him. I'm sure we will. I am checking into the possibility of an injunction right now. I was told that it would have to be a civil injunction and that is at least a $400 filing fee.

TheProfessor · July 19, 2010, 08:31:49 PM

It would be nice if they could restore it to the original architecture. It looks like the porch has been enclosed and they added a suburban looking garage.

sheclown · July 19, 2010, 10:10:01 PM

Definitely, the front porch needs to be GONE. Plenty of those additions around the neighborhood have been lopped off.

CS Foltz · July 20, 2010, 01:53:15 PM

Gaffney probably won't be much help, but you might get lucky...............all you can do is try kid!

sheclown · July 20, 2010, 08:37:49 PM

Some days are more interesting than others. Today is one of those days. Apparently, 321 E. 5th Street, is owned by an LLC which is controlled by Richard Vinas. This is the same name from the infamous email:

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,6411.0.html

Perhaps the house is the one mentioned.

btw, Eva Ayers house did get torn down.

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Atlantic-Beach/people-first-of-jacksonville-llc/26645098.aspx

Timkin · July 20, 2010, 10:57:57 PM

My gut feeling is, this one probably will too, and its a shame. It definitely is not all that bad .

sheclown · July 21, 2010, 08:28:38 AM

And it has not had an engineer's inspection. Joel McEachin, the expert with the education and training to make these decisions, thinks it is sound. He has no personal ties to the house or the owner. He is impartial.

nvrenuf · July 21, 2010, 09:48:09 AM

Quote from: sheclown on July 21, 2010, 08:28:38 AM
And it has not had an engineer's inspection. Joel McEachin, the expert with the education and training to make these decisions, thinks it is sound. He has no personal ties to the house or the owner. He is impartial.

How much say does he get in the matter? If there hasn't been an engineer inspection, why is it even on formal track? I don't understand how this process works other than assbackwardly.

sheclown · July 21, 2010, 10:03:03 AM

From what I understand, there are three "votes" involved.

One for the neighborhood,

One for Joel and his office

One for code enforcement.

It was 2 against 1 for demo on this house.

uptowngirl · July 21, 2010, 10:56:51 AM

Is this still SPAR's stance? (See email above) If this is SPAR's stance then perhaps civil action should be taken against the group? I am guessing the "Neighborhood vote" is theirs, and I would say a vote for demolition is not what the majority of the neighborhood would want.

02roadking · July 21, 2010, 11:25:25 AM

May I suggest that those of you/us that are interested in saving homes in Springfield from demolision become involved in the process. While it is easy to throw SPAR or any number of people under the bus, one must become involved in order to stop the process that we have in place now. I believe Nicole has begun a process that all interested parties can be a part of, and to make changes in the way the demolition process has been handled over the years by the COJ concerning the Springfield HD.

ChriswUfGator · July 21, 2010, 11:32:34 AM

Glad to see SPAR is on one hand hassling people about historically incorrect windows, at the same time they're pushing for the demolition of historic properties. Those weirdos just don't make any sense to me.

sheclown · July 21, 2010, 11:34:27 AM

Quote from: 02roadking on July 21, 2010, 11:25:25 AM
May I suggest that those of you/us that are interested in saving homes in Springfield from demolision become involved in the process. While it is easy to throw SPAR or any number of people under the bus, one must become involved in order to stop the process that we have in place now. I believe Nicole has begun a process that all interested parties can be a part of, and to make changes in the way the demolition process has been handled over the years by the COJ concerning the Springfield HD.

...and we are...planting signs, flowers, projects. But public awareness must raised about this issue. Turning a light on, is not "throwing someone under a bus."

Perhaps Brenda @ SPAR could call Elaine at Code Enforcement and ask her to put this on hold.