State Rd 9B

Started by British Shoe Company, August 08, 2009, 09:16:17 AM

tufsu1

Guess we'll have to wait a few years and see who drives on the road.

British Shoe Company

#361
HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!

The people against 9B are for a "One World Government".




reednavy

Quote from: British Shoe Company on July 04, 2010, 08:12:34 PM
HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!

The people against 9B are for a "One World Government".




got proof?
Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

British Shoe Company

It's in the pudding. (Other than the wrecks on 9A, it has been a success).

Hopefully 9B can fund barriers.


reednavy

Quote from: British Shoe Company on July 09, 2010, 10:45:12 PM
It's in the pudding. (Other than the wrecks on 9A, it has been a success).

Hopefully 9B can fund barriers.


9A should've been 3 lanes each way when it was built, it is a nightmare from 95 to Town Center PKWY/UNF DR.

At least 9B won't be as heavily traveled, at least on this first segment.
Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

tufsu1

Quote from: reednavy on July 04, 2010, 08:56:57 PM
Quote from: British Shoe Company on July 04, 2010, 08:12:34 PM
HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!

The people against 9B are for a "One World Government".

got proof?

now you sound like another regular poster   ;D

SightseerLounge

Quote from: reednavy on July 09, 2010, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: British Shoe Company on July 09, 2010, 10:45:12 PM
It's in the pudding. (Other than the wrecks on 9A, it has been a success).

Hopefully 9B can fund barriers.


9A should've been 3 lanes each way when it was built, it is a nightmare from 95 to Town Center PKWY/UNF DR.

At least 9B won't be as heavily traveled, at least on this first segment.

Yes! Preach the transportation gospel! Preach!

All of 295 should be 3 lanes minimum! Forget 795, wait until Atlantic Coast High is finished!

(Honorable mention: I-295 from Commonwealth to I-95 via Dunn & Lem Turner 6 lanes)

reednavy

295 should be 4 lanes minimum from Blanding to 95, and widen the Buckman.
Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

tufsu1

Quote from: reednavy on July 10, 2010, 12:36:31 AM
295 should be 4 lanes minimum from Blanding to 95, and widen the Buckman.

there is a project to add c/d roads to 295 from Blanding to Collins...that will mean 10 lanes total...there are 8 lanes on the Buckman...and there will soon be 8 lanes from San Jose to 95

tufsu1

#369
Quote from: stephendare on July 10, 2010, 06:53:39 AM
lol
frankly, after the past few weeks of fact free postings, tufsu, I wouldnt be at all surprised to find out that its going to sound like just about any poster responding to your points.

you know...it is really sad how often you attack posters when they don't agree with you...and then you ask folks to cite sources but have a hard time doing it yourself.

but no worries, I'm done debating you...it is a useless, time wasting activity.

Charles Hunter

#370
Quote from: SightseerLounge on July 10, 2010, 12:26:56 AM
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9A should've been 3 lanes each way when it was built, it is a nightmare from 95 to Town Center PKWY/UNF DR.

At least 9B won't be as heavily traveled, at least on this first segment.

Yes! Preach the transportation gospel! Preach!

All of 295 should be 3 lanes minimum! Forget 795, wait until Atlantic Coast High is finished!

(Honorable mention: I-295 from Commonwealth to I-95 via Dunn & Lem Turner 6 lanes)

Quote from: reednavy on July 10, 2010, 12:36:31 AM295 should be 4 lanes minimum from Blanding to 95, and widen the Buckman.

And, if the DOT or JTA were to propose the hundreds of millions it would take to do that, these same people, and many other, would be be screaming that the money should be spent on transit (with no argument from me)

Mattius92

Of course it would be sooo much smarter to invest in better transit (commuter rail!!!) and updating our CURRENT infrastructure, but noooo they just build more and more roads that just create more sprawl, and not really fixing the problem.
SunRail, Florida's smart transit idea. :) (now up on the chopping block) :(

thelakelander

#372
You could see this coming from a mile away......four years ago.....

Quote from: thelakelander on October 11, 2009, 09:12:57 PM
I noticed the other day that there is a fairly large isolated rural property with a commercial land use designation along 9B about half way between 9A and US 1.  The property surrounding it has a low density residential land use designation and runs up the east side of 9B/9A, all the way to the new high school near Baymeadows Road. 

So, the area has already been set up for low density sprawl.  9B will just be positioned to give that isolated land prime highway frontage.  With a lack of a street grid, if this area ever fully develops, expect choke points at Baymeadows, Philips and a future interchange with 9B.

In today's Jax Daily Record:



QuoteDavis family business preparing 184-acre site in South Jacksonville for commercial development

Just as Florida 9A sparked development along its path in eastern Jacksonville, Florida 9B is starting to do the same as it stretches toward St. Johns County.

D.D.I. Inc., the Davis family ownership company whose holdings include the significant Nocatee development in St. Johns County, is laying the regulatory groundwork to develop a 184-acre tract at the Florida 9A-9B split in South Jacksonville, north of Bayard.

full article: http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=540296

So we're now seeing the real reason roads like 9B are being subsidized into reality. Unfortunately, something tells me we'll never approve the amount of density needed around this highway to put us in the black in the long term.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

wsansewjs

Quote from: thelakelander on August 20, 2013, 12:14:45 PM
You could see this coming from a mile away......four years ago.....

Quote from: thelakelander on October 11, 2009, 09:12:57 PM
I noticed the other day that there is a fairly large isolated rural property with a commercial land use designation along 9B about half way between 9A and US 1.  The property surrounding it has a low density residential land use designation and runs up the east side of 9B/9A, all the way to the new high school near Baymeadows Road. 

So, the area has already been set up for low density sprawl.  9B will just be positioned to give that isolated land prime highway frontage.  With a lack of a street grid, if this area ever fully develops, expect choke points at Baymeadows, Philips and a future interchange with 9B.

In today's Jax Daily Record:



QuoteDavis family business preparing 184-acre site in South Jacksonville for commercial development

Just as Florida 9A sparked development along its path in eastern Jacksonville, Florida 9B is starting to do the same as it stretches toward St. Johns County.

D.D.I. Inc., the Davis family ownership company whose holdings include the significant Nocatee development in St. Johns County, is laying the regulatory groundwork to develop a 184-acre tract at the Florida 9A-9B split in South Jacksonville, north of Bayard.

full article: http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=540296

So we're now seeing the real reason roads like 9B are being subsidized into reality. Unfortunately, something tells me we'll never approve the amount of density needed around this highway to put us in the black in the long term.

And can I even mention that it is really an eyesore already to look at it as they cleared the land, void of trees and shrubs, and feeling so sick in the stomach to know that it will bring more problems than solutions?

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

thelakelander

^I noticed just about every thing from Race Track Road to the Flagler office park has been clear cut for the new 9B interchange with I-95. Let someone clear out a few trees for a digital billboard and see how long it takes for all hell to break loose. ;)
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali