Mayport Cruise Terminal: Finding Common Ground

[Rosaletta]

I built a house in Mayport Village a couple of years ago, got stuck in the market plunge, now, stuck in having a cruise ship terminal at my front door.  Mayport Village is small, the infrastructure can not handle a cruise terminal unless JAXPORT is going to pay me market value for my home and everyone else as well. plus, shore up the infrastructure, it should not happen.  I was counting on gentrification (normal assumption in a waterfront area) when Vescor bought the property on the waterfront.  I feel really duped by this whole deal.  Welcome to Florida !
It galls me how everyone can talk about what should or should not happen in an area where they do not live, work or have any vested interest.  Put a friggin cruise ship and all of the accompanying problems in your front yard and come back and tell me what you think about it.  Talk is cheap.

[reednavy]

Jaxport owns the land and can do what they please, tough cookies.

[CS Foltz]

Jaxport may own the land but without selling enough Bonds to float the financing.........won't take place anytime in the next 5 years or later! Wait I know........JEDC will buy them all up with our tax money and pay 1.5% right?

[reednavy]

You honestly expect me to know the answer to that question?

[CS Foltz]

Nope!

[tufsu1]

Jaxport may own the land but without selling enough Bonds to float the financing.........won't take place anytime in the next 5 years or later!

from what I understand, JaxPort believes it can float up to $40 million fairly easily

Roaletta...may I suggest you check the property values in the Channelside area of Tampa....they increased significantly (outpacing the rest of the area) from 2000-2006...in part because of the urban vibrancy created by the expanding cruise business....this could happen in Mayport too.

[finehoe]

I built a house in Mayport Village a couple of years ago, got stuck in the market plunge, now, stuck in having a cruise ship terminal at my front door. 

Almost everyone makes bad investment decisions at some point during their life.  Them's the breaks.

[thelakelander]

Rosaletta, I'd swap homes with you in a heartbeat to be near some local seafood joints, markets and water.  I'll also be happy with a cruise terminal nearby.  I'll take that over my condo conversion in the middle of the congested Southside anyday.  The only drawback is the helicopters constantly buzzing overhead.

[Coolyfett]

You honestly expect me to know the answer to that question?

Yes we expect you to know a great many things.

[reednavy]

Yes we expect you to know a great many things.

Oh yes, I'm the most knowledgeable person on this matter by far, not.

[Mattius92]

Jaxport may own the land but without selling enough Bonds to float the financing.........won't take place anytime in the next 5 years or later! Wait I know........JEDC will buy them all up with our tax money and pay 1.5% right?

Then you either stop JEDC from taxing you or you are screwed. There! I answered the question.

CS Foltz if you are so against Mayport then figure out where they are going to put on instead, that is east of the Dames. I have posted many spots, though you seem not like them either.

[tufsu1]

The only drawback is the helicopters constantly buzzing overhead.

in downtown, we call that character 

[CS Foltz]

Mattius92 ....I have no problems with any of the alternative locations you have proposed. My proposal involved using the dredging spoils from deepening  the St Johns for the Dames Point Container Facility! Re-cycling material should be cheaper plus that material could be either piped or barged to a designated area. That material could also be used to construct an elevated causeway for vehicle acess.......several ways to do it, but have not seen much enthusiasim for that idea! Would rather waste perfectly good land which could be used for other things, but what do I know! Keep in mind that the deepening to be done will generate millions of cubic yards of material and makes sense to me to use what we got!

[Mattius92]

So your idea is to put a cruise terminal at the Dames Point Container Terminal. Or the spoils island near the Terminal?

Both ideas are interesting, we do have to keep in mind that halfway through Blount Island is where the power lines cross. So no cruise ships can get to the western half of the Island. Now the Eastern Half seems alright, however it is being used by the marines.

I am working on a Google Earth overlay for this. However I am not sure which location you were referring too.

[duvaldude08]

I hate to be negative, but I think were going lose out on this. They are taking TOO long to make a decision and break ground. The clock is ticking and they are still undecided. I hope it comes to frutation.