Is Springfield Ready for a Car Wash?

Started by Metro Jacksonville, January 06, 2010, 06:20:42 AM

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: soxfan on April 07, 2010, 12:34:09 PM
Sucks that we have to go through all that crap.. If we keep making it so hard for businesses to open up here, no one's gonna want to open up here.. Congratulations Mr.Jones!! I hope there's no hard feelings..

Yup. Springfield already has a reputation for running off new businesses, this debacle didn't help.


CS Foltz

Anyone care to make a wager than someone else,connected with the SPAR Council, will file an appeal on the appeal?

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: CS Foltz on April 07, 2010, 02:28:40 PM
Anyone care to make a wager than someone else,connected with the SPAR Council, will file an appeal on the appeal?

Well...some recent developments appear to indicate that many people who were associated with SPAR council will be filing appeals...just not of the car wash type, LOL!


sheclown

QuoteIf they are then bye bye Joe. Parties over. The Lord giveth and the Lors taketh away. Be patient. This too shall pass.

This part freaks me out.  That's my Joe they are talking about.

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: sheclown on April 20, 2010, 10:09:17 PM
QuoteIf they are then bye bye Joe. Parties over. The Lord giveth and the Lors taketh away. Be patient. This too shall pass.

This part freaks me out.  That's my Joe they are talking about.

G, was there REALLY any doubt that they were this crazy?

I mean...it's always surprising to see it in writing like that, but there was no question of the mindset of the mini-hitlers at SPAR. And, sadly, it doesn't look like much is changing.


cindi

there is no date, who wrote it or who it was sent to.  soooooo.........
my soul was removed to make room for all of this sarcasm

cindi

sorry, still don't understand.  is this an actual email that was sent to someone (gaffney), and if so who? or is it just a collection of emails put together over time?
my soul was removed to make room for all of this sarcasm

cindi

my soul was removed to make room for all of this sarcasm

Springfielder

I don't get the point of this persons email...what is it they hope to gain? And if there's a new one each day, what is their goal? It's not like Gaffney can do much of anything about the issues this person mentions...what a strange email indeed


sheclown

#354
Clearly, it isn't a revitalized Main Street that they are spending their energies on.  The group isn't demanding the protection of historic structures.   Nor is it finding a mayor who will spear-head an urban core renaissance.

Rather, this is an attempt to silence those who have stood up against the policies of SPAR for a decade.

Joe has been critical about neighborhood politics for ten years.  He loudly yelled "foul" when the board elections were canceled.  He has repeatedly brought up the bylaw issues, historic preservation issues and the overlay problems.  

He stood before city council and asked that Silas Jones be given his fair chance.

This is more about silencing Joe than anything else.

The city has listened to SPAR board and investigated.  The state has investigated.  We are found in compliance with every conceivable ordinance and department, local and state.  

SPAR board is not satisfied.

The car was was voted on, appealed and voted on again.

SPAR board is not satisfed.

They want Joe.  It is personal.

sheclown

#355
QuoteWant us to learn to live together in harmony. That's not gonna happen

This is from the neighborhood leaders.  

Wrong answer...

We need to learn to live together in harmony.

Livein32206

If this email was generated by a member of the spar board, then it clearly shows how low the organization has fallen. I was always under the impression that this was supposed to be an organization for the community as a whole, which it hasn't been as long as I've lived here.

I also don't understand the rationale behind making issues personal. It's long past time to stop the foolishness and get back to what the organization is supposed to be doing; working for the community, not against it.


strider

This e-mail is certainly from a SPAR Council board member.  As Stephen said, there are gross errors in it's "facts".  The sentiments expressed in this e-mail, as well as the others that have been sent recently should concern all of us.  They express disgust for the truth on the part of the writers, they show the arrogance of some of the SPAR Council board members and they illustrate the low opinion and lack of concern they have for their "constituents", the residents of Springfield.

These few people, who for the most part have been appointed rather than elected or are even on the board illegally, have made me their poster child for what is wrong with Springfield.  They need an actual enemy, one they hope to turn the rest of the residents against.  They need to be able to say “it’s his fault, blame him for…“ enter whatever ailment that is important to you, be it crime, be it illegal activity or be it housing values.   It is also one of deflection.  If a person you support is at least partially to blame, help him put that evil eye on someone else.   In a way, it is flattering to have been credited with this much power. The reality, of course, as reasonable people know, is much different.

The current leadership within SPAR Council believes that only their opinion and their somewhat twisted vision of Springfield’s future is the one that matters.  It should be obvious to all from some of the recent events that the majority of the residents have a different and more inclusive vision.  The city itself seems to be siding with the residents, not SPAR Council.  And so, the city gets attacked as well.  The Woman’s Club didn’t agree with SPAR Council‘s leadership, so they get attacked.  And need we even mention this very site and it’s leaders?

There are indeed a few good people still involved with SPAR Council.  It is perhaps time for them to stop this nonsense.  It can be done by one person who truly cares.  Are you that person?  Contact us and we can talk. It is what the community needs and deserves.  
"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

iloveionia

Stephen, who wrote the email?
I do not know how to access information for the Sunshine Law.
Please type the name of the person or if you would kindly provide directions as to how to access emails to public folks,as I have NO clue how to, I will look myself.
I would prefer to have all of the facts. 
Thanks.