Should Hate Be Outlawed?

[buckethead]

With the fairly recent concoction of penalties for hate crimes being proposed and implimented, the larger question remains: Should hate be outlawed?

Let's say for the sake of discussion hate based upon recial prejudice and/or bigotry.

Should it be outlawed?

[Sportmotor]

Yes. Although hate is human nature so in doing so you would be committing a even larger crime against humanity.

[Shwaz]

With the fairly recent concoction of penalties for hate crimes being proposed and implimented, the larger question remains: Should hate be outlawed?

Let's say for the sake of discussion hate based upon recial prejudice and/or bigotry.

Should it be outlawed?

What constitutes 'hate'... saying you 'hate someone' or telling someone you 'hate' them?

I don't think you can outlaw a feeling.

[JagFan07]

Uh Oh!!! The thought police are out to get ya!!

[buckethead]

Hate crimes (as I understand the concept) are those motivated by hate. If you kill someone for the sake of taking whatever money or valuables they might have at the time, it would not be a hate crime.

If you kill someone because they were a different color than you, then it is a hate crime, and clearly deserves a greater punishment. (at least that seems to be the reasoning behind hate crime legislation)

Why would we not try to prevent these hateful acts by legislating hate out of existence?

[JagFan07]

Hate crimes (as I understand the concept) are those motivated by hate. If you kill someone for the sake of taking whatever money or valuables they might have at the time, it would not be a hate crime.

If you kill someone because they were a different color than you, then it is a hate crime, and clearly deserves a greater punishment. (at least that seems to be the reasoning behind hate crime legislation)

Why would we not try to prevent these hateful acts by legislating hate out of existence?

The hate is not the crime, the killing was the crime. Hate just changed the category of the crime. A racist is not a criminal unless he breaks a law.

Imagine the implications. You say "I hate Obama". Innocent enough, but wait that's hate, lock em up.

[NotNow]

Once again, we claim to see into the heart of another. This is not possible, and any such law is inevitably unevenly applied. Hate is a motive, not a crime.

"Hatespeech" and other such terms are Orwellian IMHO.

[Sportmotor]

You cant infringe on someones freedom of speech if they are screaming hate BS. That would start down a very wicked path.

[buckethead]

Bunch of haters!

I say we need hate legislation and we need it now!

[Sportmotor]

So you are hating on the haters Bucket?

[buckethead]

Not hating.....


REGULATING!

[Sportmotor]

Gonna spend all night REGULATING! yourself?

[JC]

Its funny to see a bunch of straight white people debate a topic like this!  Seriously, its amusing...

[JC]

You know what, I wasn't really going to get involved in this discussion but I just cant pass the bait up.



I can find many more sobering examples of Americas less than stellar record when it comes to the tyranny of the majority terrorizing a minority. 

Of course it changes nothing for the victim to have their killer prosecuted for a hate crime, what it does do though, is make a statement  that we as a society will not tolerate the dragging of an elderly black man behind a pickup truck for the crime of being black. 

[Ocklawaha]

I would seem based on "Origin of the Species" that this would be a suicidal law. As the law of nature would be survival of the fittest assuring evolution of only the finest genes. Thus an argument can be made that Adolph Hitler, or Stalin's purges were actually a performance of God's work. In order as a people to continue to evolve towards immortals we must, needs be, HATE anything less then excellence.

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