Is Springfield Ready for a Car Wash?

Started by Metro Jacksonville, January 06, 2010, 06:20:42 AM

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: sheclown on March 21, 2010, 10:09:09 AM
I believe it changed from the original  "Restoration" to "Revitalization" in 2003.

Probably about the same time the developer donations started rolling in...hmmm...imagine that.


strider

Ahh, not to sweat the details, but SPAR has not existed since 2002.  It was merged with HSCC and became SPAR Council.  The name change was done for a reason, one of which was that SPAR was not all that well thought of, especially by the city.  And mostly over the type of shenanigans we have seen the last few years. 

HSCC was Historic Springfield Community Council, formed after one of the studies that helped Springfield make it to Historic District status and SPAR, which was Springfield Preservation And Restoration, and was the older of the two organizations officially listed as being formed in October of 1977.  HSCC is listed as being formed September of 1986 and dissolved in September of 2003.

SPAR’s basic corporation paperwork was used as it was easier to transform into the new organization.  The name was changed to SPAR Council, which indeed does stand for Springfield Preservation And Revitalization Council.  So, as of July 15th,  2002, there was no longer a SPAR nor a HSCC. 

I know I am one of the only ones that cares, but there is a reason I have always tried to say SPAR Council rather than just SPAR.  It does indeed go back to the city and their opinion of SPAR at the time. And the fact that many feared the new organization would become nothing but SPAR.  I guess I always kept hoping they were wrong.  Too bad they were right.

ChrisUFGator, the real stuff didn’t start until after the merger.  Prior to that, the big fish was Michael Troutman.  Louise was certainly at the lead during the merger and took total control after.  Her first act was to appoint board members illegally and then, when I pointed out she did not have that right, she worked around me and more or less did it anyway.  By 2003, the board had several SRG types on board.  The security fund started and so did the rein of SRG, Mack and Jack Meeks.   
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CS Foltz

Much thanks for the information strider..........SPAR Council it is! Either way, I am waiting to see just what comes out of Headquarters, so I guess time will tell! Hope it is forward thinking and progressive for all!

sheclown

#333
The date for the car wash appeal is rapidly approaching.  Should you wish to have your voice heard, it is easy enough to email LUZ committee members.  Be clear in your wording.  If you are for the appeal, that means you are against the car wash -- and visa versa.  It is probably easiest to just state your position on the car wash, your connection to the neighborhood, and your reasoning behind your position.  

LUZ(Land Use and Zoning) Members:


Ray Holt - Chair                   Holt@coj.net
Warren Jones - Vice Chair     WAJones@coj.net
Reginald Brown                    RBrown@coj.net
Daniel Davis                        DDavis@coj.net
Johnny Gaffney                   Gaffney@coj.net
Stephen Joost                    Joost@coj.net
Don Redman                       Redman@coj.net

Obviously, Dr. Gaffney is going to be looked to by the other committee members for leadership in this matter, so an email to his office is probably the most important.

There is plenty of info in this thread pro and con for those who need review.



sheclown

Any news on the car wash appeal?  Is it still scheduled for Tuesday?

sheclown

  2010-167
   
RESO-Q re Appeal of Final Order Issued by Planning Comm re Zoning Exception Appl E-09-54 to 1424 Main Street, LLC, Apv a Car Washer on Propty at 25 W. 4th St & Portion of 1424 Main St; Adopt Recommended Findings & Conclusions of the LUZ Committee. (Reingold) (LUZ)

LUZ PH - 4/6/10

1. 2/23/2010 CO  Introduced: LUZ
    3/2/2010 LUZ Read 2nd & Rerefer
2. 3/9/2010 CO Read 2nd & Rereferred; LUZ


















sheclown

Introduced by the Land Use and Zoning Committee:


RESOLUTION 2010-167

A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE APPEAL OF A FINAL ORDER ISSUED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION REGARDING ZONING EXCEPTION APPLICATION E-09-54 TO 1424 MAIN STREET, LLC, APPPROVING A CAR WASHER ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 25 WEST 4TH STREET AND A PORTION OF 1424 MAIN STREET, PURSUANT TO SECTION 656.141, ORDINANCE CODE; ADOPTING RECOMMENDED FINDINGS AND CONCLUSIONS OF THE LAND USE AND ZONING COMMITTEE; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

   WHEREAS, 1424 Main Street, LLC, applied to the Planning Commission for a Zoning Exception (Application E-09-54) to permit a car washer on property located at 25 West 4th Street and a portion of or 1424 Main Street in CCG-S (Commercial Community/General-S) Zoning District; and
   WHEREAS, the Planning Commission approved Application E-09-54 by Final Order dated January 14, 2010; and
   WHEREAS, pursuant to Section 656.141, Ordinance Code, Dane Baird, on behalf of appellants, filed a notice of appeal; and
   WHEREAS, such appeal was timely filed and the appellant has standing to appeal; now therefore
   BE IT RESOLVED by the Council of the City of Jacksonville:
   Section 1.      Adoption of recommended findings and conclusions.   The Council has reviewed the record of proceedings regarding Zoning Exception Application E-09-54, which is on file in the City Council Legislative Services Division and the Planning and Development Department, and has considered the recommended findings and conclusions of the Land Use and Zoning Committee.  The recommended findings and conclusions of the Land Use and Zoning Committee are hereby adopted and shall become effective immediately.  This resolution is the final action of the Council.
   Section 2.      Effective Date.      The adoption of this resolution shall be deemed to constitute a quasi-judicial action of the City Council and shall become effective upon signature by the Council President and Council Secretary.

Form Approved:

     /s/  Dylan T. Reingold___________
Office of General Counsel
Legislation Prepared by Dylan T. Reingold
G:\shared\LEGIS.CC\2010\res\LAND USE GENERAL\E-09-54.doc

AlexS

Link for the live hearing in case you can't make it there in person.
http://media.coj.net/COJCouncil

Springfielder

Love the video Alex. So does this mean the car wash has been approved and that's it for the appeal?


AlexS

Quote from: Springfielder on April 06, 2010, 04:37:48 PM
Love the video Alex. So does this mean the car wash has been approved and that's it for the appeal?
I think they just prepared what the final document would look like if the recommendation of the commission is followed. But I don't know for sure.

AlexS

#340
The appeal was denied which means the exception is approved.

Correction: Apparently it's not final yet. The recommendation of the Commission (which is to deny the appeal) will now be brought to the full council to vote on.

QuoteSec. 656.142. Appellate procedure.

(d) The resolution shall be referred to the appropriate committee of Council, which shall conduct a de novo public hearing as soon thereafter as reasonably practicable. The committee of reference shall prepare a proposed recommended written order for consideration by the Council.

Sec. 656.143. Scope of review.
(a) The Council's review shall be a de novo review of the record and applicable law; provided, however, any council member may at any time view the property and consider that view.
(b) The record shall include all evidence and testimony presented to the Commission or Downtown Development Review Board as well as any evidence presented to the appropriate committee of Council.

Sec. 656.145. Decision of the Council and final action.

(b) When the Council acts on a contested decision pertaining to a final action of the Commission or Downtown Development Review Board, Council action shall be deemed to be the final action of the City of Jacksonville as of the effective date of the resolution and shall be subjected to no further review under this Code.

italiana1975

Welcome to the neighborhood Mr. Jones.

Springfielder

I can't imagine that the full council would not approve it.


sheclown


soxfan

Sucks that we have to go through all that crap.. If we keep making it so hard for businesses to open up here, no one's gonna want to open up here.. Congratulations Mr.Jones!! I hope there's no hard feelings..
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