Political Discussion about Healthcare Reform Law

[Doctor_K]

Ironically, this is probably one of the largest single transfers of wealth ever.  Only problem is, it's going the wrong way.

[finehoe]

Ironically, this is probably one of the largest single transfers of wealth ever.  Only problem is, it's going the wrong way.

You got that right.  "Socialism" indeed.

[Dog Walker]

It is all bookkeeping and 90% of it will flow back in the next two years.  Transactions of that size between the treasury and those companies are simply loan guarantees on paper.  It's not like truckloads of greenbacks were taken into the offices.

Don't panic.  As long as our US bonds are better rated than other countries, and they are, we are not about to collapse.  The US dollar is at a record 10 year high against the Euro.  People are buying dollar bonds because every place else is worse.  Not good news, but no disaster either.

[finehoe]

It is all bookkeeping and 90% of it will flow back in the next two years. 

Perhaps, but that 10% could easily fund the Health Care Reform bill, rather than line the pockets of people who already have more money than they know what to do with.

[whitey]

think of what we have already spent in Iraq over the last decade . . . could have already paid for this reform

The difference is the Iraq war will end, I thought Obama was gonna get that out of the way by now.  This healthcare sham will go on in perpetuity, increasing in costs year after year

[JeffreyS]

think of what we have already spent in Iraq over the last decade . . . could have already paid for this reform

The difference is the Iraq war will end, I thought Obama was gonna get that out of the way by now.  This healthcare sham will go on in perpetuity, increasing in costs year after year

That isn't the only diffrence this money will be spent on Americans.

[whitey]

think of what we have already spent in Iraq over the last decade . . . could have already paid for this reform

The difference is the Iraq war will end, I thought Obama was gonna get that out of the way by now.  This healthcare sham will go on in perpetuity, increasing in costs year after year

As opposed to the rampant criminality and increasing costs of health care for the past 40 years?

Please give me a break!

"Rampant criminality" lol  More hyperbole from stephendare, what a surprise.  I hadn't realized our prisons were overcrowded because of those damned health care thugs.

Increasing costs of health care over the last 40 years, hmmm.  If you'd like access to only same products that were available 40 years ago I'm sure costs would be lower than what current rates are.  How much did that proton beam at Shands cost and how much does it cost to keep it operating?  What about all the new prescription pills that have come along in that time?  All this new stuff costs money, lots of it and people who use it should pay for it.

I must have missed your post about college tuition costs being higher than they were 40 years ago and labeling college professors/admins as "criminals"

[Sportmotor]

Because we disagree with you, we are horrible people basically? No I don't think so.

[NotNow]

We used to despise cheats.  You people seem to love them.

In the rightwing universe, the Madoff's and Abramoff's, Skilling Five, Aetna and the 'insurance' banksters are your heroes.

Should take a moment and look at yourselves.

Ah...an open minded progressive, ready for honest debate and the exchange of ideas!  

Don't worry, StephenDare!, you will get your medicare in about four years!

[NotNow]

Sorry, I know you are not really a progressive.  What nom de plume does the party use these days?

[NotNow]

Um, OK.  I can play this game.  Let's see...


What kind of people ARE you???

Lenin, Stalin, Castro, Chavez, and Putin.  These are your HEROS!!

You cheer every time that Obama emulates them!  You LOVE IT when the left wing nut SEIU communist thugs beat people up, don't you?  That is the side that you are taking!


There, how's that?

[NotNow]

You sure are defending their right to steal from all the rest of us.

And you are defending stealing from the rest of us.  There are Constitutional limits to what the government has a right to take.

[whitey]

"Rampant criminality" lol  More hyperbole from stephendare, what a surprise.  I hadn't realized our prisons were overcrowded because of those damned health care thugs.

Nope.  Not our prisons, but our graveyards.  And they arent health care thugs, they are banksters posing as 'insurers', plain and simple.

What's gotten into people?

We used to despise cheats.  You people seem to love them.

In the rightwing universe, the Madoff's and Abramoff's, Skilling Five, Aetna and the 'insurance' banksters are your heroes.

Should take a moment and look at yourselves.

Instead of changing the subject, perhaps you'd like to respond to the rest of my post.

[whitey]

Well I used to be a reagan youth and a young republican.  But I havent affiliated with then for a couple of years.  I think they are generally called 'morons' or 'teabaggers' these days.

If only we were all so learned as you with your name calling and whatnot.  Oh what it must be like to be as enlightened as stephendare

[NotNow]

I have never known you to espouse any Republican principle or policy.  You constantly espouse communism, and have prattled on about it on many occasions.  No need to try to hide it now, is there?

And your friends (Lenin, Stalin, Castro, Chavez) all were firmly in the single payer camp, as are you I believe.

But the point of my post was....sarcasm.  Your tendency to try to align those that debate you with names that you can easily make fun of.  A rather simpleton type of argument.  Strange for a guy who thinks so much of himself.  And then to deny your meaning in the next post is just...cowardly.   You continue to live down to my expectations. 

But I mean that in the nicest way!