Logical way to vote on issues in Springfield

[samiam]

OK Lets come up with a fair and logical way to vote on issues in Springfield. Here is a start
Home owner that lives in Springfield 1 vote
Home owner that lives in Springfield that own multiple houses  1 vote per house
home owners that do not live in springfield that rent house in springfield 1/2 vote
people that rent in springfield under 6 month 0 votes
people that rent in springfield 6 month to 1 years 1/4 vote
people that rent in springfield 1 to 2 years 1/2 vote
people that rent past 2 year's 1 vote
a person that own a lot that lives in springfield 1/2 vote
a developer that does not live in springfield that owns lots 1/4 vote per lot
a developer that builds a house that does not live in springfield 1/2 vote
commercial property owners with tenants 1 vote
business owners 1 vote
owner operators 1 vote
banks that own houses in springfield 0 votes

The value of the vote is based on the amount of the persons vested interest in springfield. If you find fault in my logic feel free to post but please don't post problems post solutions.

Thank you.

[Lunican]

Well, what exactly is being voted on?

[braeburn]

What about people who live 2 streets away in the NW quadrant of downtown and can see most of the historic architecture of the entire neighborhood from their window?

Oh, and people who are just like the aforementioned and spend 50% or more of their time in said neighborhood?

[Lunican]

[samiam]

I'm not tying to be mean but there are issues that need to addressed with the city because we are in a historic district. But the answer to your question is you are more than welcome to reap the benefits of our hard work and investment for free. don't post problems post solutions please.

[samiam]

There are several issues that have been hotly debated on metjax. instead of all the bickering and drama I'm just presenting an alternative nothing more

[braeburn]

the answer to your question is you are more than welcome to reap the benefits of our hard work and investment for free

Wow.... okay, got it. I will remember that the next time I invest 30 hours a week of volunteering in your neighborhood.

[sheclown]

Sam, you're kinda cute.

[samiam]

the answer to your question is you are more than welcome to reap the benefits of our hard work and investment for free

Wow.... okay, got it. I will remember that the next time I invest 30 hours a week of volunteering in your neighborhood.

Thank you so much for your work it is very appreciated and we are in your debt.

[samiam]

Sam, you're kinda cute.

Thank you

[samiam]

Or we could just do it this way

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3xl3w_voting-and-you_politics

[Livein32206]

OK Lets come up with a fair and logical way to vote on issues in Springfield. Here is a start
Home owner that lives in Springfield 1 vote
Home owner that lives in Springfield that own multiple houses  1 vote per house
home owners that do not live in springfield that rent house in springfield 1/2 vote
people that rent in springfield under 6 month 0 votes
people that rent in springfield 6 month to 1 years 1/4 vote
people that rent in springfield 1 to 2 years 1/2 vote
people that rent past 2 year's 1 vote
a person that own a lot that lives in springfield 1/2 vote
a developer that does not live in springfield that owns lots 1/4 vote per lot
a developer that builds a house that does not live in springfield 1/2 vote
commercial property owners with tenants 1 vote
business owners 1 vote
owner operators 1 vote
banks that own houses in springfield 0 votes

The value of the vote is based on the amount of the persons vested interest in springfield. If you find fault in my logic feel free to post but please don't post problems post solutions.

Thank you.

So this voting method proposal of yours would what: Doing away with spar membership only voting, or does this mean you hope that every single entity listed would become members? Or that every entity listed would have the voting power, and it wouldn't be spar members only? Do those commerical properties with tenants gets a vote, does that mean the tenants would also vote? What exactly would they be voting on, board members? As far as I know, thats the only voting that takes place, and even that has become a slate vote (which really isn't a vote, nor are there options.)

[sheclown]

Sam, I admire the effort here, but it is a bit awkward.

  The problem, currently, is no voting representation -- it has been SPAR's undoing.  SPAR can't seem to understand that the city will not allow the organization to represent the neighborhood when the neighborhood has no say in the organization.  And this is just common sense.

Issues in this neighborhood would not be where they are today had the organization not tossed out its bylaws and rid itself of legitimate elections. 

When this was brought a couple of years ago, the proper response would have been ... "so sorry, we will work toward improving this".

Voting, inclusive, transparent neighborhood organizations are all that is truly needed. 

[Miss Fixit]

The only way for the general population to "vote" on issues in Springfield is by electing government officials who support your views.

SPAR is not a homeowner's association that, through deed restrictions, every resident of Springfield is required to join.

SPAR is not the only voice for Springfield, nor should it be.

SPAR is a neighborhood organization that anyone can join.  Join SPAR, get active, change the organization.

I'm not suggesting that I agree with everything SPAR does or the way it operates - I certainly do not.  I'm just pointing out that, unless you're a member of SPAR, voting is irrelevant.

[sheclown]

The only way for the general population to "vote" on issues in Springfield is by electing government officials who support your views.

SPAR is not a homeowner's association that, through deed restrictions, every resident of Springfield is required to join.

SPAR is not the only voice for Springfield, nor should it be.

SPAR is a neighborhood organization that anyone can join.  Join SPAR, get active, change the organization.

I'm not suggesting that I agree with everything SPAR does or the way it operates - I certainly do not.  I'm just pointing out that, unless you're a member of SPAR, voting is irrelevant.

Miss Fixit.  Many have tried to "fix" SPAR from the inside.  The ranks just close up -- rarely does the board get heard, much less the general membership.  Which is exactly why the membership has shrunk.  What's the point in joining, if you have no voice?

Let's hope for a new day in the neighborhood.  A peaceful one.  And new leadership which operates as the organization ought to, with open mouths, hearts and minds, and lead the neighborhood to a better place than the battlefield we currently have.