Springfield Subway Car Mystery Solved

Cliffs_Daughter · January 20, 2010, 03:58:22 PM

Oh, so it's an Arsix then.

Someone on here knows the address of the property in discussion - it's probably still zoned as retail property if it was a store once - if we can contact the current owner, how and what would we even say?

YellowBluffRoad · January 20, 2010, 03:59:32 PM

http://www.nycsubway.org/cars/r6.html

BridgeTroll · January 20, 2010, 04:50:36 PM

I would love to see some pics from its days as part of the disco...

Ernest Street · January 20, 2010, 08:56:59 PM

Disco recolections at this place and others have to be a future thread....

Ocklawaha · January 20, 2010, 09:39:30 PM

Old Hippie Advice...

DISCO?

RUN LIKE HELL WHILE YOU STILL CAN!

http://www.youtube.com/v/zrwNqf8ujtk&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x402061&color2=0x9461ca&border=1

OCKLAWAHA

deathstar · January 21, 2010, 01:43:57 PM

That was such a wonderful insight to the history of this subway car. Thanks Hap!

Sportmotor · January 21, 2010, 08:14:21 PM

fun read

stjr · January 21, 2010, 10:40:44 PM

I remember going to Nichols Alley a few times. It was the hottest spot in Jax for young people for awhile. That story and pix brought it all back as I had forgotten all about it. Yes, it was next to K-mart at Beach and University.

Don't forget AnnieTiques at Regency Square. Before the mall was doubled in size, there was a strip center on the property with a Colonial grocery store on one end and Annie Tiques restaurant and night club on the other end. Another classic Jax hot spot.

MajorCordite · February 08, 2010, 12:55:21 PM

There used to be a Neisner's Five-and-Dime department store in The Arlington Shopping Center during the 1960's. Sometime around 1970 it turned into a night club. Kinda pre-disco but hard charging Southern Rock-N-Roll. Anybody remember the name?
I remember the lines outside when some live acts were booked. Having a senior moment :-)

billy · February 08, 2010, 01:01:20 PM

The former Walgreens (next to Winn Dixie) in Lakewood was briefly a concert venue.

stjr · February 08, 2010, 06:25:45 PM

All the ABC Liquor stores were originally Jax Liquors. Many of them featured "Happy Jax" lounges/clubs in the early to mid 70's. The one in Lakewood is where Cruisers and the Fitness Club are now. I think the bid one was on Baymeadows.

Does anyone remember the Big Daddy's nightclub chain that came to Jax for awhile? Maybe that was the one in Arlington.

Major, their was a Neisner's store chain out of Rochester, NY at one time. Was this store related to them? I went to college with one of the family members but never knew of a store in Jax.

MajorCordite · February 09, 2010, 05:50:54 PM

Jax Liquor's lounge at the corner of Atlantic Blvd and University was "The Spectrum." In the late 1960's and 1970's it was the happening place. A couple of friends and I "invented" a little dance step that was real "cheesy" that we called the Spectrum Hop. You had to have a cocktail-drink in one hand and a cigarette in the other. It was a spoof on Dean Martin and you kinda' did it when you knew you had no chance of picking up the lady. It was definitely the ultimate lounge-lizard move. (I told you it was cheesy!)

STJR. Neisner's. Yes it was the same store. It was a lot like Grants. I remember it had a great record bin and we bought all the first Beatles' Albums there when they came out. Dave Clark Five, too!

urbanlibertarian · February 09, 2010, 08:23:30 PM

Quote from: MajorCordite on February 08, 2010, 12:55:21 PM
There used to be a Neisner's Five-and-Dime department store in The Arlington Shopping Center during the 1960's. Sometime around 1970 it turned into a night club. Kinda pre-disco but hard charging Southern Rock-N-Roll. Anybody remember the name?
I remember the lines outside when some live acts were booked. Having a senior moment :-)

Do you mean "The Other Place"?

stjr · February 09, 2010, 10:30:26 PM

Quote from: MajorCordite on February 09, 2010, 05:50:54 PM
STJR. Neisner's. Yes it was the same store. It was a lot like Grants. I remember it had a great record bin and we bought all the first Beatles' Albums there when they came out. Dave Clark Five, too!

Neat. Went to college with the owner's son but I believe that store must have been closed by then.

I am thinking now that Big Daddy's was in front of the Regency shopping center to the southeast of the intersection of the Arlington Expressway and Southside Blvd.

Urban, I remember The Other Place although I am not sure I ever went there. How about Cork and Cleaver that (are you listening Ock) was in a real caboose and box car (as I recall) on rails along the Arlington Expressway.

Ocklawaha · February 10, 2010, 01:38:28 AM

Nothing like blowing a hole through the side of a 1922 era Pullman so the rice pilaf doesn't get flat.

Just pick up the phone and talk to your friendly neighborhood, hippie dippy train car mover...

Yeah, stjr, I'm watching from my perch in the bat cave, (it must be because its 1AM and I'm still messing with MJ).

The Cork and Cleaver, originally had more train cars then just that if I'm not mistaken. I think it was part of the national chain of fad restaurants called "Victoria's Station." They collected some classic pieces of railroad equipment from around the country, and each location seemed to have at least one nice or unusual piece. The unite in Fern Park, which WAS still standing as a "Gentleman's Club,"(LOL) last time I was by it, has a classic WOODEN, FEC RY, side door caboose. Before the FEC RY rebuilt a bunch of express cars, from the old passenger train pool equipment, into dandy bay window cabooses, they had a motley collection of old wooden hacks of just about every shape and configuration. In the late 1960's there was a sting of maybe 15 of them sitting north of Speedway Boulevard in Daytona Beach, on an FEC siding. Don't know if they were all sold, but they all vanished one day. Wonder where this old stuff went?? Sure would be nice to snag one of those cabooses for our own railroad museum!

TOP: Vintage FEC RY, similar to the Fern Park Caboose, BOTTOM: Typical Modern FEC RY Caboose in use until they were all retired on the continent's first Caboosless railroad.

US Navy Locomotive

On a similar note I have located "The Navy Train" locomotive that once ruled the 12-15 miles of track that fanned out all over NAS JAX. Through the 60's and into the early 70's, the little GE 44 Toner was a regular fixture as it came out ot the base just south (jog in the fence) of the Birmingham Gate, and rolled alongside just to the west of US17. The little train would stop the cars on the highway, and at Ortega Hills Subdivision. It would stop for orders and paperwork from the ACL/SCL agent at the Yukon Depot, which stood directly across from the Yorktown Gate. Then it would rumble off to the north, swinging back into the base by the truck gate, and running parallel to and just south of the runway area. If it was still there, it would be running right across the air side (north) of all of the new hangers they have built. After it went a few hundred feet into the base it joined another ACL/SCL connection that came in from the north alongside Roosevelt, and maybe 1,000 feet North of the railroad crossing into the Yukon town site (Trent's seafood!). This North leg of the system, and the track from the junction all the way out to black point, was the last stand of THE JACKSONVILLE TRACTION COMPANY. It might also be, or have been, the very best evidence of trolley freight which may well have operated in Jacksonville. Anyway, after going all over the country, the little GE locomotive seems to be right back home (almost) sitting on the old base railroad at Lee Field NAS (closed), Green Cove Springs.

OCKLAWAHA