JSO and (alleged) prostitution

[AlexS]

I think the video speaks for itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-r19UwbIU

[cindi]

yep, if you are "officer way too friendly" and were working zone 1 at 0015 on Thursday morning - just remember, just because the shell station has crappy, non working cameras doesn't mean that you are not being watched. welcome to hampsterdam, smile, you are under video surveillance.

[CS Foltz]

That is a good idea cindi! JSO itself would be interested, I am sure,in officers that are not doing their jobs! If your non-productive Council representative is not doing their job, then do it for them............but you should not have to kid! There is no question about picitorial proof versus the he said she said routine.

[Karl_Pilkington]

was that a doughnut shop? maybe he was just waiting for the "HOT NOW" lights to come on.

[iloveionia]

so what embarrassment do you plan on providing for the JSO officer who appeared to solicit a prostitute?  can you post videos on the JSO Facebook page?  are you taking this any further?  or shall I gather it would be a lost cause?  

[Joe]

Am I missing something? This video doesn't seem very interesting.

Why are people implying that the police were soliciting a prostitute? Is there some other information that I'm unaware of?

All this video seems to show is the police doing their job and questioning (what's presumably) a prostitute. It's hilarious yet pathetic that she was able to flash her ass and get away with it. What's with the multiple posts with accusing JSO of something wrong. It doesn't even make sense.

[samiam]

I think it funny that the prostitute wasn't arrested for indecent exposure

[CS Foltz]

Well there seems to be a flesh market in that part of the world and the people who live there are not enthused! So if JSO is not going to cure the problem & their Council representative seems to ignore the issue..........what are people to do? Maybe the Council person is a patron, but to ignore the wants of the people who put them into office, registered voters, seems slightly stupid to me! Whether or not that person is term limited should not have a bearing, but they were voted into office by someone............so why aren't they doing their job?

[Springfielder]

Am I missing something? This video doesn't seem very interesting.

Why are people implying that the police were soliciting a prostitute? Is there some other information that I'm unaware of?

All this video seems to show is the police doing their job and questioning (what's presumably) a prostitute. It's hilarious yet pathetic that she was able to flash her ass and get away with it. What's with the multiple posts with accusing JSO of something wrong. It doesn't even make sense.

Apparently you are....the video clearly shows JSO talking with the hooker, said hooker flashes their product and JSO does nothing...that's the point. I don't see where anyone was suggesting that the JSO officer(s) were soliciting, in fact, I feel the posts imply that they did nothing about what was obvious

[stjr]

I'd rather see shorthanded police, prosecutors, and courts prioritize murder, rape, home invasions, and other mayhem than worry about a woman exposing her thong for a split second showing not more than what certain ladies reveal at the beaches on a hot summer day.  Dressing provocatively isn't a crime. To arrest for prostitution they need a "proposition" at least.  This is like the homeless issue, easy to see, hard to resolve.

By the way, maybe she's an "informant", playing an "undercover" role while spilling the beans. 

[Springfielder]

Nobody is suggesting that JSO not utilize the majority of their resources for the serious crimes. However, when there's known prostitution in a selected area (and this is one of those areas) and a bimbo flashes their butt in front of an officer, then why didn't that officer at least take that bimbo in for indecent exposure? That's the point, that such behavior was ignored, when the community has been begging for help from JSO.

[CS Foltz]

Springfielder you are correct! That is why I started that thread...............lets get some discussion going and maybe we can get something positive going! I understand about prioritizing and there are things JSO need to be on top of but............at what point does it become something that needs to be addressed? That area has had that issue for quite some time so when does it get addressed? Council member does not seem too interested, JSO does not either............but the games go on!

[cindi]

I'd rather see shorthanded police, prosecutors, and courts prioritize murder, rape, home invasions, and other mayhem than worry about a woman exposing her thong for a split second showing not more than what certain ladies reveal at the beaches on a hot summer day.  Dressing provocatively isn't a crime. To arrest for prostitution they need a "proposition" at least.  This is like the homeless issue, easy to see, hard to resolve.

By the way, maybe she's an "informant", playing an "undercover" role while spilling the beans. 

let me say, the people that don't see anything wrong with this most likely is because it isn't in your front yard EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. How do I know that, because if you did you would know - that ain't no lady (it is a transgender whore) we
in hampsterdam are repeatedly told that if they (JSO) don't witness them showing their stuff then they can't do anything. Well he obviously witnessed it and NOTHING was done.  And really, prostitution is a victimless crime? The hehos that we have are extremely violent, more times than we can count a "bitch fight" has resulted in a stabbing or shooting (doesn't warrant a news crew), the gomer's not liking what they got or a pissed pimp. Do we really need to go down how "victimless" the spread of STDs, HIV and hep c can be (more than half of these gomer's have car seats in the car). The vast majority of these guys are drunk and we have had them wipe out light poles and even porches. With the hookers come the drugs and with drug use you have an increase in petty theft. And my all time fave is, the sex in our alleys and used condoms all over the yard.  If JSO is SO BUSY fighting real crime, why was he there playing slap and tickle with the heho? FYI, that hooker was not undercover he is a long time regular. 

[CS Foltz]

cindi..............last report from Sherrif of JSO, crime was down so maybe soon! By the way I started another thread regarding this situation and this forum is the perfect place to discuss it............discussion will lead to something being done sooner or later!

[stjr]

Don't misunderstand.  I support a cleanup.  I just think, like the homeless, there are a lot of legal technicalities that make this a tough thing to accomplish.

In my response above, I was also reacting to the apparent premise being put forth that the cop should have been arresting this person and that their failure to do so meant the cop was rogue.  I went back and looked at the video in stop action and it looks like this person (whatever they may be) had a thong.  I am thinking that this is not grounds for pressing charges given these are on display at the beach and, thus, the cop was not at fault for not making an arrest.

I guess we could make a Supreme Court case out of this with hundreds of thousands of City/taxpayer dollars but, you know, Jax tried that once in the early 70's with a vagrancy law that the U.S. Supremes threw out in a landmark decision, making it next to impossible for anyone in the country to arrest you for just hanging around.  I think Jax lost its appetite for carrying the flag for the whole U.S. in these issues after that.

My guess is the best way to reduce prostitution is to either legalize it, tax it, and regulate it, or to effectively expose the johns.  I suspect even the latter would be eventually circumvented.  At least, with the former, we could more easily arrest people for "practicing without a license", improve public health. reduce enforcement costs, and improve City revenues.  With our cracker jack zoning laws and enforcement of them (sarcasm hat on, folks), we could push them into that part of town with the most ineffective representation at City Hall!  

Leglaized prostitution wouldn't hurt our convention business either   !  Come to think about it (no pun intended!), we could use this industry to finance our new convention center and then relocate our intermodal terminal properly at Prime Osborne.

Wow, all the City's problems solved at once.