Ladies of the nite and their bretheren

[CS Foltz]

I was really glad to learn of the Flying Ninjas, with their faithfull canine companions hard at work putting a dent in the corner business's down on 8Th! Now if the Council representative for that world would just do their job and direct JSO to put a dent in the meat market there, maybe Springfield can finally start to solidify into a neighborhood the residents can be proud off. I have to ask point blank to that Council person..........are you a patron of that area? Why do you not respond to the voters request to clean it up? If your term limited, no excuse and no reason and since you don't seem too interested to do what you were voted into office to do, I will ask - Why don't you do your job and represent the people who voted you into office? Registered voters will remember the slight and come election time, you might have to get a real job unless you have vested business interests already in progress..........say an office on 8Th?

[Springfielder]

How is it the council's job to dictate what JSO does? Would that responsibility fall upon JSO and the supervisors?

[CS Foltz]

Springfielder..........Council representative for that area has been contacted more than once! JSO non-emergency number has been called repeatedly because the Council person said that was what to do. Problem still exists and has not changed any at all...........next up would Vigilante system of some sort and there are people who expect City Hall, JSO and their representative to do something about the issue!  But an issue that effects an area, that needs to have something done about it and nothing happens except lip service, something is wrong with that picture!

[tpot]

Ok......................this is a minor point..........but you all know that these are not ladies right??  LOL

[CS Foltz]

tpot.............where I come from all females are treated like ladies until they prove that they are not! Just the way I was raised! Some of those on 8th probably are lady wanta be's but I would not investigate closer! I am allergic to penicillin and most broad spectrum antibiotics...........so no investigation from me for sure! Sooner or later JSO should get involved and that problem will have to take a number, but sooner or later it will have to be addressed!

[tpot]

yeah, I agree that females should be treated like ladies until they prove they are not............but these are dudes desssed as ladies...................not that it makes a difference...............just a little FYI..............LOL

[cindi]

tpot.............where I come from all females are treated like ladies until they prove that they are not! Just the way I was raised! Some of those on 8th probably are lady wanta be's but I would not investigate closer! I am allergic to penicillin and most broad spectrum antibiotics...........so no investigation from me for sure! Sooner or later JSO should get involved and that problem will have to take a number, but sooner or later it will have to be addressed!

case in point.  everyone is an expert on our "problem" but in fact they don't know crap.  THESE ARE MEN!!!! dressed as women, they are violent, they are nasty, they are loud, they are disease bearing and they are left unimpeded.  we have a few jso officers that put forth a concerted effort, but for the most part - nada.  again, this is nothing new.  i am still more than a little tickled at the post stating that basically it was alright, there really wasn't anything wrong with it.  WTF it is ILLEGAL. 

[urbanlibertarian]

From Wikipedia:
Nevada is the only U.S. state to allow some legal prostitution; in most of its rural counties brothels are legalized and heavily regulated. (In Rhode Island, prostitution was outlawed in 2009.) Prostitution outside the licensed brothels is illegal throughout Nevada. Prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas (and in Clark County which contains its metropolitan area). Currently eight out of Nevada's 16 counties have active brothels; as of June/July 2008 there were 28 legal brothels in Nevada.[1][2][3]
Brothel prostitutes work as independent contractors and thus do not receive any unemployment, retirement or health benefits. They are responsible for paying Federal income tax and their earnings are reported to the IRS via form 1099-MISC. Nevada does not have a state income tax. The women typically work for a period of several weeks, during which time they live in the brothel and hardly ever leave it. They then take some time off. It has been argued that[who?] the tight control that brothels exert over the working conditions precludes the women from legally being classified as independent contractors.

Since 1986, when mandatory testing began, not a single brothel prostitute has tested positive for HIV. The mandatory condom law was passed in 1988. A study conducted in 1995 in two brothels found that condom use in the brothels was consistent and sexually transmitted diseases were accordingly absent. The study also found that few of the prostitutes used condoms in their private lives.

[cindi]

From Wikipedia:
Nevada is the only U.S. state to allow some legal prostitution; in most of its rural counties brothels are legalized and heavily regulated. (In Rhode Island, prostitution was outlawed in 2009.) Prostitution outside the licensed brothels is illegal throughout Nevada. Prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas (and in Clark County which contains its metropolitan area). Currently eight out of Nevada's 16 counties have active brothels; as of June/July 2008 there were 28 legal brothels in Nevada.[1][2][3]
Brothel prostitutes work as independent contractors and thus do not receive any unemployment, retirement or health benefits. They are responsible for paying Federal income tax and their earnings are reported to the IRS via form 1099-MISC. Nevada does not have a state income tax. The women typically work for a period of several weeks, during which time they live in the brothel and hardly ever leave it. They then take some time off. It has been argued that[who?] the tight control that brothels exert over the working conditions precludes the women from legally being classified as independent contractors.

Since 1986, when mandatory testing began, not a single brothel prostitute has tested positive for HIV. The mandatory condom law was passed in 1988. A study conducted in 1995 in two brothels found that condom use in the brothels was consistent and sexually transmitted diseases were accordingly absent. The study also found that few of the prostitutes used condoms in their private lives.

nice info, however, this is jacksonville, these are nasty, mean men, and it is still very much illegal.  one look at most of them will tell you that they have the countdown and are graciously spreading it to anyone they can.  and for those that think that only dirty ole men are the gomers, think again.  we see volvo's, vets, caddy's and even the tree hugging prius - young and old, black and white. all night, every night.  many are frequent flyers.     

[cindi]

I guess pragmatically speaking the only solution is how they do it in Barcelona Spain, where industrial areas have well known spots that the cops try not to pay much attention to.

they do have a similar area in jacksonville - it's the area of springfield know as hampsterdam.  the video shows that.  we have more or less been told in the past, suck it up, take one for the team.   i say, screw the team, i'm sending them a nasty heho - have a nice night.

[CS Foltz]

Well there is Amsterdam in the Neatherlands! That red light district is strictly controlled and operated by the government! All commercial whatevers are licensed and medically inspected, even the drug side of things! At one time you could get anything there.........maybe we can be advertise "What happens in Jacksonville stays in Jacksonville"? This is just a thought of course! Taxing something like this would make alot of sense also!

[CS Foltz]

I just had a thought............downtown could mean just that! Johnny wants to upgrade and get downtown up and running...........why not have a "Red Light District" in there.........should be good for increasing the action available, not to mention increasing the tax base? Just a thought mind you!

[tpot]

I think the only thing we can do is to try and move the business down the street.  I read somewhere that the hub for this activity used to be Market and 5th which blew my mind..............

I know on my last ride along with JSO, the officer I was with was encouraging them to move further West down 8th St, but the problem they were having is that the further West you go up 8th the more usafe the area.................so the He Ho's want to work where they feel safe..................

[CS Foltz]

Move the business to downtown...........anyone caught outside gets a stay in the local pokey plain and simple!

[tpot]

downtown is already overrun by the homeless..............the He Ho's need their own space......