The SPARlisted Convenience Stores

[fsu813]

no, uptown girl is right.

i made it all up. so did JSO. just another conspiracy.

[Karl_Pilkington]

no there's no conspiracy FSU does actually suck.

[ChriswUfGator]

Oh silly Stephen, it's only "talking out of your ass" if what you're saying disagrees with their viewpoint....

[uptowngirl]

Uhmmm I think nvr has chased off more hookers than any JSO officer, no matter how long they have been on the force LOL!

It is sad that my peeps in the neighborhood argue like this. Bottom line, this place is just not that bad, and the responsibility for enforcing the law falls the police period.

[cindi]

Uhmmm I think nvr has chased off more hookers than any JSO officer, no matter how long they have been on the force LOL!

It is sad that my peeps in the neighborhood argue like this. Bottom line, this place is just not that bad, and the responsibility for enforcing the law falls the police period.

you know what i find funny.  the fact that there is such an issue with THIS place but the shell at 8th and boulevard -( which by the way mr. meeks once said wasn't that bad, or is getting better - paraphrase but the point was there) is a billion times worse. maybe mr. BP man should just throw a shell station sign up - oh that's right, they don't care because it's over "there" and god forbid any of the people in springfield that matter have to look at such a site.
fyi, depending on the officers on shift - citizens are berated for interacting with the "element"
i agree, the owner should call more (if he isn't) however, if someone is driving by and sees this going on - why aren't they calling?  esp. if it is a public sidewalk etc.

[cindi]

So, I suppose you should shut your ass up on the subject of what the business owner has or has not done to secure his business if you havent asked him, right?

Because apparently it (meaning your asstalk) keeps making these same kinds of assumptions.

poopie jokes! Thanks Steve!

gee, maybe he is just working his way up to attacking someone's vapid manhood. 

[fsu813]

uptowngirl

i can think of many business owners in the area that wouldn't allow the activity at and around thier business. the guy does have phone to call JSO if someone won't leave the premises. trust me, JSO would love for the the guy to cooperate with them.

so i'm not sure why you're trying to shift blame.

[uptowngirl]

Wth are you typing about now?  Goodness, you really do not get it. Why don't YOU call the police about these people? I hold YOU just as responsible for not addressing and working with the police! I mean this stuff is going on right outside, I would think if something can be done, it could be done with YOUR call no?

[cindi]

if you see someone dealing, it is just as much your responsibility as the business owners who may or may not be on site.  same theory, call enough and eventually they will get the love they need.

[cindi]

no idea.  i posted on that website - per the recommendations months ago and no one ever responded back.  i just assumed it was like everything else around here - more blah blah, smoke and mirrors. especially since no will answer a direct question about it and any time the subject is brought up more than once, the thread is locked and removed.  hummm.  must be back on the old SPAR, it's not what you know but who you ... forum that determines who gets to say what.

[cindi]

uptowngirl

i can think of many business owners in the area that wouldn't allow the activity at and around thier business. the guy does have phone to call JSO if someone won't leave the premises. trust me, JSO would love for the the guy to cooperate with them.

so i'm not sure why you're trying to shift blame.

um.  if you can think of 'many' business owners in the area, your a step ahead of us on the space time continuum there, propaganda boy.  Because there are only a handful of the little critters, and damned if you and your gang arent trying to close them all down.

oh on the contrary - the shell shithole runs without any interference - guess the pretty people can't see it from their little rose colored windows. 

[FLDrifter]

uptowngirl

i can think of many business owners in the area that wouldn't allow the activity at and around thier business. the guy does have phone to call JSO if someone won't leave the premises. trust me, JSO would love for the the guy to cooperate with them.

so i'm not sure why you're trying to shift blame.

um.  if you can think of 'many' business owners in the area, your a step ahead of us on the space time continuum there, propaganda boy.  Because there are only a handful of the little critters, and damned if you and your gang arent trying to close them all down.

You think SHARP is just a front of SPAR to get our names?

[Stenodave]

uptowngirl

i can think of many business owners in the area that wouldn't allow the activity at and around thier business. the guy does have phone to call JSO if someone won't leave the premises. trust me, JSO would love for the the guy to cooperate with them.

so i'm not sure why you're trying to shift blame.

um.  if you can think of 'many' business owners in the area, your a step ahead of us on the space time continuum there, propaganda boy.  Because there are only a handful of the little critters, and damned if you and your gang arent trying to close them all down.

oh on the contrary - the shell shithole runs without any interference - guess the pretty people can't see it from their little rose colored windows. 

Hey, I upgraded our house to have rose colored windows and stainless steel appliances installed!  Looks like it was a good decision.

[strider]

Here's the deal, racism today is not necessarily white against black, but it is part, often an unintended part, I will grant you, of the prejudice we see.  The prejudice shows up in many forms.  Not liking a store that sells singles, not liking the fact that a store owner says no to what I think is often pretty dumb things to do, not liking the looks of those who use the store.  Not liking the idea of AA meetings at a public community center.  Not liking people in recovery living in the community, not liking thrift stores because they “bring in the wrong kind of foot traffic”.  The list could go on and on.

Sheclown posted: Perhaps the owner could put out a sign: "For Whites Only"

It was not really a call of racism, but rather a statement that what is occurring here is certainly reminiscent of how it was in this country for decades and much of what has been posted and has occurred recently in Springfield gives us an indication of why it happened. One group decides it is better and knows better than all others and so, that other group is automatically less and not important. They shouldn’t use the stores, they should not live in this community, they should sit in the back of the bus.  

There are some here who have walked the walk and talked the talk like Cindi, Nvrenf, Uptown girl, Stephen, ( sorry if I missed anyone) when it comes to doing rather than just talking.  They have done good things for their particular neck of the woods. And should be applauded for it. Stephen and friends did it to Main Street when Boomtown was around. Mostly, a used and well lighted and I repeat, used and well lighted area is the best way to defend against what most are complaining about.

This non-cooperating store owner….I did see that there is a no loitering sign.  I have heard that he refused to “trespass” a “known drug dealer”.  I have to tell you, if the police come to the thrift store and say that a “known drug dealer” comes into our store and buys stuff once in a while, and they say I should trespass him, I will refuse as well.  I will ask that if he is a “known drug dealer”, why they do not arrest him for that? And do we know why this store owner has not “cooperated”?  Could part of it be that some other store owners have said they have and they still get the Louise nasty grams?

And to that Susan character representing SPAR Council, wasn’t it one of those, you really think it will be great and you will really enjoy it and then find out too late how very wrong you were?

One of the things I have learned is that some here in Springfield and on this forum are afraid of having things out in the open.  By doing so, they can’t spin it the way they want.  They much prefer to do conversations in PM’s and to have little posters only for their eyes and to speak only amongst themselves.  That way little things like the facts don’t interfere with their beliefs.  And why when the truth is posted using their own public e-mails, they get really ticked off.

New residents/ future residents of Springfield, all us bad, bad people like myself and Sheclown ask is that you go find the facts for yourselves and do not automatically believe what some tell you, hey, even us.  The real facts are put out there and are often posted on this forum. Go talk to people like Doug V and see what he has to say.  All you have to do is read and care enough to find out the truth for yourself. Many who once thought as Louise and Company do have now gone and found the facts and the truth out for themselves. You can too.

Back more to subject, if you want to bring about change and have been trying for years without much sucess, then perhaps you should try something new.  The current SPAR Council  has been trying one tack for years and we hear the same complaints over and over.  Perhaps it is time to try something different.

[cindi]

certainly was, i do think the rose colored windows are standard if you buy on the east side or some areas of the west side.  in hampsterdam, we don't have rose colored windows but there is a bulletproof upgrade option.