New Convenience Store

[thelakelander]

^That's what I've been saying the entire thread. For more clarification, I posted whats allowed under the CCG-S zoning with links to municode for proof a couple of pages ago.

[Sigma]

I met with Silas again today and explained to him that renderings will help people visualize the space better.  I also advised that he should possibly even have process maps of the operation etc.  Silas is going to meet with Contentdg tomorrow.  He is open to whatever he needs to do to make it work.

Thank you, Matt.  Since I work in commercial real estate development, the comments, opinions, and concerns voiced here are calm compared to what I've seen and heard on some other projects.  Its natural for the neighbors and surrounding community to become involved and have a say-so.  Professional developers pay attention and work with communities.  Exhaustive at times.

I will be more than happy to assist in anyway I can.  Very glad to see Silas working in a collaborative effort.  

[thelakelander]

Hopefully, the collaborative effort discussed here will be done with other potential commercial projects in the community.

[nvrenuf]

Stephen, would you please elaborate on your statement regarding Fusion? In a separate thread if need be. We were so excited about the concept that we've been supporting it since before it opened. We continue to inform our friends and neighbors about this gem on Pearl St. Miro is extremely gracious and responds well to suggestions to improve his offerings in order to increase business.

[fsu813]

i second that

[thelakelander]

Matt, why was it rejected last time?  He would stand a better chance of getting it approved this time, if he can respond to their reasons for rejection to discredit their argument for denial.

[Johnny]

Also, how long ago was it that it was denied?

[Dan B]

a year or two ago Johnny.

Lake, I have asked around, and about as good an answer as I got was "because its against the overlay".

[jason_contentdg]

We'll be meeting with Silas tomorrow and hopefully helping him submit a full application showing design intent and will take any guess work out of SPAR and Historic Commission. 

There will be ways to buffer the site from the residential side of the car wash.

Saying this site is in a residential neighborhood isn't quite correct, they make it sound like it is in the middle of homes, surrounded on each side, which we know is not the case.

It will be sad if Silas has a well thought out site and building design, solid business plan, and the needed equipment, and still gets turned down.  I'd much rather have a place where I can grab a cup of coffee, get my car washed while reading the paper then another lot rotting away while someone waits for the market to change....

[sheclown]

I don't think it is a question of the overlay as a car wash would need an exception anywhere in town. 

Has anyone talked to Louise and asked her what she thinks of this plan now?  She may be behind it.

[thelakelander]

We'll be meeting with Silas tomorrow and hopefully helping him submit a full application showing design intent and will take any guess work out of SPAR and Historic Commission. 

There will be ways to buffer the site from the residential side of the car wash.

Saying this site is in a residential neighborhood isn't quite correct, they make it sound like it is in the middle of homes, surrounded on each side, which we know is not the case.

It will be sad if Silas has a well thought out site and building design, solid business plan, and the needed equipment, and still gets turned down.  I'd much rather have a place where I can grab a cup of coffee, get my car washed while reading the paper then another lot rotting away while someone waits for the market to change....

A car wash is not "against the overlay."  Its clearly permissible by exception.  Good luck Jason.  Hopefully everything works out for the best.

[Springfield Girl]

Stephen, your relaying of the info from Historic is completely false and I don't appreciate the way you tried to implicate me. As a matter of fact the guidelines do not take into consideration the concerns of neighbors.

[fsu813]

"why would anyone ask her anything sheclown?"

- b/c she's in charge of the most effective & influential organization in the neighbrohood, which just so happens to be opposing the plan. but besides that, no reason.

fyi....your personal grudge is getting in the way of common sense.



also, not that anyone should care, but i'm on the fence with this issue. i can see it both ways.

[thelakelander]

Care to explain the opposition's stance?  From my perspective it seems like many of the questions raised have been addressed, unless they are assuming he's lying.

[Dan B]

I think its a knee jerk. The place does kinda look like crap, but thats no insurmountable. Hopefully Content Design can give him an affordable plan of action to make it look decent.

I am pretty sure Meeks, Ross, and Associates had to get an exception as well, and that is less than half a block away, so the commercial/residential argument, on its own merit, is not a winner.