SPAR's "RED ALERT" aimed at neighbors...uses Proton Lab staff and faculty ?!?

[samiam]

Why not just conduct a survey of springfield property owners and ask them if the want any more boarding houses, halfway houses, sober houses, Etc. If they want them so be it, if they dint want them so be it also. I would be a simple way to resolve this issue.

[02roadking]

The email was clear, and it was sent to the city as an official communication, from the personell director of the proton center, using the proton center email address.

There isnt any other reasonable interpretation of that for any of the city officials reading, recieving or acting on the contents of the email.

Unless you can think of some other way it would have been interpreted by City Officials, in which case, I am all ears.

Your kidding right. It is a SPAR Boardperson answering an SPAR related email from his work. Simple.

[Dan B]

You know what sam. I agree. Perhaps it would be a good way to get the sence of a couple of other issues as well.

Alex has been wanting to do this for a long time on a number of issues.

[02roadking]

I'll help...

[jason_contentdg]

Probably has to be a hard copy survey, but an electronic one could be put together rather easily, like this one:

http://igetitjax.com/

[Dan B]

Actually, whats clear is, that Jerry sent an email to Kharis. The rest isnt so clear, as neither the email headers, or even the to/from field of the email that Gerry sent is included in this email.

I know I am just a cable puller, but thats how I see it.

[danno]

Then one side or the other will come out and say it was rigged!  Maybe we could get Kimmy Carter out to oversee the whole process.  He could also over see the SPAR elections.....

[samiam]

It would be very easy to verify the results. just inform the property owners that an independent audit will be conducted to ensure the results of the survey

[nvrenuf]

Well shouldnt he have called JuCoby Pittman before he went over her head and reprehensibly accused her of breaking laws and promoting lawlessness and trying to 'destroy the neighborhood' to the City Council and all of the authorities listed in the email?

No, it really would have been more appropriate to contact Ronald Mallett, Board Chair of Clara White Mission.

[samiam]

All I was proposing is a simple solution to what seems to be a complex problem for some people in the community. All the other stuff that stephendare listed has nothing to do with the issue. I am a big fan of the KISS method.

[samiam]

It should be independent of Spar or any other organisation in Springfield  so no one can say it is a Spar thing or Sharp or whom ever.

[sheclown]

Samiam,

I appreciate the effort, but it doesn't go to the heart of the issue.  The point is that as long as what is there is legal, or what is proposed is legal, then these people have rights, too, regardless of neighborhood approval.

Everyone wants to be acceptable, but when the neighborhood is whipped up into a frenzy, a "controlled panic" over something which is legal and allowable, it just causes heartache for everyone.

[samiam]

 Lets take this to a vote. which is the law of the land

[sheclown]

While we are at it, let's vote to violate other civil rights too.

[Dan B]

Just so I am clear, because this whole bullying thing still confuses me. Use normal channels to city officials, like email and phone calls, to try to get things done is bullying... calling the employers of people you disagree with, and posting 4 month old emails to stir issues back up... not so much?

The issue isnt the people in the houses, but the businesses that own houses themselves. Stop trying to muddy the issue. Keep in mind, None of the other facilities involved in the issue have made any effort to expand their presence, and none of them have had any problems with SPAR.

Also, I keep hearing the mantra "if its legal, then you have no right to challenge it"... If thats true, no law ever would be changed.