do you really know your neighbor?

[ChriswUfGator]

the point from the whole thing was that many people in many neighborhoods have absolutely no idea who lives next to them.  i was amazed at how many people were amazed that there were over a hundred "sex offenders" in a 5 mile radius of the orange park address.  and, the website does specifically identify predators. 
whether you think that it's alright to have sex with a 15.95 year old or whatever isn't the issue, and it is NOT an issue about rooming houses or single family houses it is about the fact that there are still 20 what some would think of as "not socially acceptable sex offenders".  that is still almost 1 per block in springfield.  

Well since you brought up the Orange Park example in your argument, you may want to read this:

AP Story, just released:

No Sex Offenders Suspects in Florida girl's Death...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GIRL_IN_LANDFILL_FLOL-?SITE=FLJAJ&SECTION=SOUTHEAST&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

They investigated all of them within a 5 mile radius, and none had anything to do with it.

[stephElf]

No one is arguing that there aren't sex offenders who are mis-labeled or that some of them aren't scum.

But, some of them are.

But you had no issue with the term "baby raper" and thought that all of them should rot in jail....this is the problem with blanket statements.

No, I think the scumbags should rot in jail and was smart enough to read between the lines in the initial blanket statement and not get up in arms about pedophiles being called baby rapers.

[ChriswUfGator]

No one is arguing that there aren't sex offenders who are mis-labeled or that some of them aren't scum.

But, some of them are.

But you had no issue with the term "baby raper" and thought that all of them should rot in jail....this is the problem with blanket statements.

No, I think the scumbags should rot in jail and was smart enough to read between the lines in the initial blanket statement and not get up in arms about pedophiles being called baby rappers.

So you think a 16 year old kid with a birthday a month ahead of his 15 year old girlfriend's is a "pedophile"? Or you think the registered "sex offender" mentioned by the JSO detective in the article I posted, who had sex with his 17 year old girlfriend (who is still married to at age 40) back when he was 18, is a "pedophile"?

And don't tell me this $h!t doesn't happen, I found 3 of those situations just on nvrenuf's list in this thread.

[stephElf]

Did I not already agree with you that there are people who are wrongfully persecuted?

I am not talking about them!  And neither was the initial poster.

[tufsu1]

Steph...that's not what you or the original poster said...

To refresh, the original post said "jacksonville has approximately 1515 registered sex offenders in it’s 874 square miles (the estimate is 522 people per 1 baby raper) or about 2 per square mile"

and below is my response and your response to my post

wow...I'm very impressed with your choice of the phrase "baby raper"....definitely doing yourself proud!

wow...I'm very impressed with your choice of the phrase "baby raper"....definitely doing yourself proud!

Well what else would you call a pedophile and/or sex offender? They are POSs that will most likely not be rehabilitated, so who cares what they are called.

Care to retract anything?

[stephElf]

I have already stated and agree with that some sex offenders receive that title when they don't deserve it.

However, for the ones that suck at life, I don't care what they are called.

[nvrenuf]

Chris, I shouldn't answer as I don't have time right now to go back and review it all over again. But if I wait until I do it will be way out of context with the thread stream. I did intentionally take these points into consideration and dropped two other people off the list for that very reason. Without the case in front of me I can only go by what I read and my perception of same. And the one case said the victim was 12-15. You are assuming the 15.95 year old I'm guessing with a 17 year old. It could have also been the 12 year old, we don't know. If they were convicted at 23, I took off 3 years making them 20 which is old enough to know not to dip your stick into a well that's under 16. The other two fall into a bad offender or good offender category but without the case file we won't know for sure either way. I took the information I found in the citation and used that to base whether they went on the list or not.

If someone who lives next to them wants to go talk to them about it, by all means.

[Dog Walker]

I personally know two people on the "sex offenders" list.  One deserved it; "Dirty-old-man" syndrome with a willing teen.  Wrong head(ed) thinking, the fool.

The other is a fine, moral person who was set up by a lying, resentful stepdaughter.

The laws are vague, poorly written and open for abuse.

[mandy6488]

Did I not already agree with you that there are people who are wrongfully persecuted?

I am not talking about them!  And neither was the initial poster.

If the initial poster didn't mean to call them all baby rapers.. they really needed to word what they said better!

[stephElf]

Did I not already agree with you that there are people who are wrongfully persecuted?

I am not talking about them!  And neither was the initial poster.

If the initial poster didn't mean to call them all baby rapers.. they really needed to word what they said better!

correct.. but they probably weren't aware that there are several situations where perhaps people don't deserve the label... i bet most people don't know that...

it seems obvious that the person wouldn't mean that name towards people who don't deserve it

[cindi]

as one of the others posted, isn't it our duty as a parent to err on the side of caution.  yes, as with everything else there is an abuse of the system.  if you look up on the fdle website, honestly, do the majority of the ones that you pull up in the 32206 zip look like a teenage/20 year old guy that got caught in the wrong time, wrong place situation? 
people seem to depend on the news or whatever to "warn" you about pending doom, by the time it has hit the news about an unidentified vehicle trolling the neighborhood - most likely someone is already missing.

[ChriswUfGator]

It looks like the planning to safeguard ourselves and children has gone out the window.

The problem is that it has gone too far.

[ChriswUfGator]

yes, as with everything else there is an abuse of the system.  if you look up on the fdle website, honestly, do the majority of the ones that you pull up in the 32206 zip look like a teenage/20 year old guy that got caught in the wrong time, wrong place situation? 

To answer your question, he's already weeded the 189 registered sex offenders in 32206 down to 20 in making that list, and even then it still has at least 3 on it that are pretty obviously wrong place/time type of situations.

So yeah...I think your highlighted statement is pretty accurate...

[buckethead]

I'm just glad to have a trainwreck thread to read and a fresh batch of popcorn.

[cindi]

yes, as with everything else there is an abuse of the system.  if you look up on the fdle website, honestly, do the majority of the ones that you pull up in the 32206 zip look like a teenage/20 year old guy that got caught in the wrong time, wrong place situation? 

To answer your question, he's already weeded the 189 registered sex offenders in 32206 down to 20 in making that list, and even then it still has at least 3 on it that are pretty obviously wrong place/time type of situations.

So yeah...I think your highlighted statement is pretty accurate...

wow, eliminated all those without predjudice knowing all the facts about all the remaining cases. it basically boiled down to no one above the age of 15 - 16 is raped / molested by anyone that is, what, younger than, lets say 30, it is always consentual.  strong work.  they are right, the jail is full of all innocent people. thank goodness we have fixed that little problem.  now on to world hunger.