SPAR revolt?

[nvrenuf]

What's the deal with the Springfield Improvement Association?  Would they be willing to take on the preservation situation?

They've been active in that capacity in the past, albeit based on some of the comments on this forum to the detriment of some houses. It certainly is worth asking them.

[sheclown]

What's the deal with the Springfield Improvement Association?  Would they be willing to take on the preservation situation?

They've been active in that capacity in the past, albeit based on some of the comments on this forum to the detriment of some houses. It certainly is worth asking them.

I don't understand.  Are the players the same as SPAR?

[nvrenuf]

We've inquired several times about SHARP with no response.  We need to get out of "newbie" status so that we can get our questions answered I guess. 

Jason is a Full Member at 247 and he can't get an answer either. I would think it is more likely the SPAR Shill perception. I mean I've met you Matt, are you trying to say you actually have thoughts and opinions of your own that haven't been spoon fed to you by a nefarious neighborhood organization? Nah, sheep you are, all of you. Baaaa

[cindi]

No one is that important.  Its kind for you to say that, but Louise staying will doom SPAR to decline at this point.

just as one person really can't "make" an organization (the size of SPAR that is) i think saying that Louise is the sole doomer is giving her a whole lot of credit that really isn't deserved and as it seems there is no love loss for SPAR, who really cares if it fails miserably?
as for everyone throwing out the "i never tore down a house" claim.  there are many that have bought, done nothing with them (demo by neglect) and then flipped before the wrecking ball hit,  they are just as guilty.
like dan said, SPAR is not the only game in town.  
woohoo post number 33

[nvrenuf]

What's the deal with the Springfield Improvement Association?  Would they be willing to take on the preservation situation?

They've been active in that capacity in the past, albeit based on some of the comments on this forum to the detriment of some houses. It certainly is worth asking them.

I don't understand.  Are the players the same as SPAR?

Not that I'm aware of sheclown.

[sheclown]

So, why is it to the detriment of some houses?  I must have missed something.

I think it is very important for preservation issues to be handled by a group separate from the commercial corridor.  Often these goals may need to be tempered by each other, and there needs to be a process to that.

If the Springfield Improvement Association has taken on preservation in the past, do you think it would be willing to be the voice of preservation for the neighborhood?

[cindi]

this is SPAR for goodness sake, we are not tasking them with solving world hunger or world peace.  it is JUST a group of people that evidently a lot of other people don't agree with / like.  again, i asked, if you go to an eating establishment and the service sucks, you are over charged and end up with food poisoning - are you seriously going to keep going back? go somewhere else or cook your own food is usually a good solution.  
fyi - #34

[strider]

Actually, the SIA and the Women’s club are one in the same....though I admit that I don't understand the relationship...

The Women's club/ SIA was part of the group that decided to force the bad people who owned condemned houses to fix them or else.  This is what has been referred to as "to the detriment of some houses", I believe. The difference is that I believe SIA as a whole had good intentions but with some bad results and supported this effort based on the wrong reasons as provided by SPAR Council and those who 'cross" between the two.

[strider]

Also, to those who are complaining about being singled out as "new posters"....sorry. I don't actually care if you are one person for four names or four separate people. I know some of you, like Alex S, Matt, Dan B, Phil and Cindi (may be Danno, but...) and all of you are welcome. The real newbies....well, we all should remember that we all were new once.

[strider]

Fact:  According to SPAR's bylaws, elections are to be held in October...

Who is running for office this year?  When are the elections?

Zoo, you're an appointed board member -- have any answers?

So some of you want this thread back on target?  How about one person - Zoo, Matt, Danno, Dan B, Phil, Jth or anyone? - answering the above question?  You can also explain how Claude and Barbara are still on the board without being appointed as board members by the board and where in the by-laws does the Governance Committee, of which Claude seems to be a part of, have the right to appoint someone as President when they haven't been even appointed to the board?  And why did the current board go along with it?  And why did it have to be done?  What "profit" is in it for them? These very questions and more have been hanging around for a year now. Many may call the above “conjecture”, but it can be seen right in the approved board minutes, assuming they will show them to you. 

I guess it could all be simple poor management, but then, that would be a reason to remove Louise and Claude right on out of their positions anyway.

[cindi]

Who is running for office this year?  When are the elections?[/b]

Zoo, you're an appointed board member -- have any answers? 

So some of you want this thread back on target?  How about one person - Zoo, Matt, Danno, Dan B, Phil, Jth or anyone? - answering the above question?  You can also explain how Claude and Barbara are still on the board without being appointed as board members by the board and where in the by-laws does the Governance Committee, of which Claude seems to be a part of, the right to appoint someone as president when they haven't been even appointed to the board?  And why did the current board go along with it?  And why did it have to be done?  What "profit" is in it for them? These very questions and more have been hanging around for a year now. Many may call the above “conjecture”, but it can be seen right in the approved board minutes, assuming they will show them to you. 

I guess it could all be simple poor management, but then, that would be a reason to remove Louise and Claude right on out of their positions anyway.

seriously, you are asking this from a group that doesn't even follow robert's rules? 
sheclown, i hate to tell you but you stand a better chance of nailing jello to a tree than trying to get an answer that would even come close to satifying you. 
as for the removing thelma and louise - plain and simple - it aint gonna happen.  seriously, why is this soooooo hard for everyone to believe/accept

[sheclown]

Who is running for office this year?  When are the elections?[/b]

Zoo, you're an appointed board member -- have any answers? 

So some of you want this thread back on target?  How about one person - Zoo, Matt, Danno, Dan B, Phil, Jth or anyone? - answering the above question?  You can also explain how Claude and Barbara are still on the board without being appointed as board members by the board and where in the by-laws does the Governance Committee, of which Claude seems to be a part of, the right to appoint someone as president when they haven't been even appointed to the board?  And why did the current board go along with it?  And why did it have to be done?  What "profit" is in it for them? These very questions and more have been hanging around for a year now. Many may call the above “conjecture”, but it can be seen right in the approved board minutes, assuming they will show them to you. 

I guess it could all be simple poor management, but then, that would be a reason to remove Louise and Claude right on out of their positions anyway.

seriously, you are asking this from a group that doesn't even follow robert's rules? 
sheclown, i hate to tell you but you stand a better chance of nailing jello to a tree than trying to get an answer that would even come close to satifying you. 
as for the removing thelma and louise - plain and simple - it aint gonna happen.  seriously, why is this soooooo hard for everyone to believe/accept

Cindi's back.

& btw...Joe is putting word's in my mouth.  This is his post.

[cindi]

yes, as a newbie not yet fully entitled to an opinion about a neighborhood that i actually live in, i am working up to the good stuff. 
sign this #36

[strider]

And I corrected that mistake....perhaps I should have realized that every computer is really Sheclowns!  

And Cindi, so because it is difficult, perhaps borderline impossible, we should give up hope of unseating the illegally seated Claude and Barbara and getting rid of "Tear-em down" Louise?

Somedays, I really do think I could nail jello to a tree.....

[cindi]

honestly, yep

And Cindi, so because it is difficult, perhaps borderline impossible, we should give up hope of unseating the illegally seated Claude and Barbara and getting rid of "Tear-em down" Louise?

Somedays, I really do think I could nail jello to a tree.....

not only is this poor ole horse dead, it has completely gone through rigor, and the flesh is completely falling off.  i just think they are being allowed to suck a whole lot of energy out of a group that if the energy were redirected could make them a real non-issue. 
The usual fortune of complaint is to excite contempt more than pity. Samuel Johnson


but hey, this is only post 37 so - what do i know.