SPAR revolt?

[sheclown]

It isn't a personal argument.  It affects the whole neighborhood, potentially the whole city. 

It affects many lives.

[ChriswUfGator]

It seems to me your relishing the role of mud slinger.

Also, fwiw, I looked into the issue of changing the number of people who can live in a house. I was told that there is no such effort, they are simply looking to have the city enforce its own laws at this point.

Another SPAR-defending newbie...hmm

[ChriswUfGator]

nah.  its the same guy you identified last time.  For whatever reasons he changed his screen name again.

You can tell by the tone and assumptiveness.

Or...maybe it's not a guy at all?   

[sheclown]

It's Dan.  He's okay and entitled to his opinion, although quite often he's wrong.

He's not a bogus screen name.

[strider]

how about people keep thier personal arguments / issues / agendas to themselves. involving everyone else (ie, bashing on online forums) just makes things worse. people only hear part of the story. people pick sides. it's just a mess

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I, for one, will be happy to comply with that when SPAR Council starts using the truth about things rather than lies and innuendo, starts actually following their own laws like they seem to be insuring everyone else does, stops dragging the names of people they do not like through the mud in e-mails to city council and city officials and during meetings with those same city officials, and if the leadership of SPAR Council makes a public apology for those lies and innuendo they spread to the innocent men and women that they are trying to evict from their neighborhood.  To get any respect, SPAR Council has to first earn that respect.  They have done quite the opposite.

[chris farley]

The three structures mentioned in the Email from Louise herself.  The justification for them so far was that a board fell out of the ceiling and Eva Ayres wanted them gone as she felt they had an impact on her property


The  above is such a distortion and completly ridiculous
Shame on you.  No battle is won with such tactics

You know the worst thing that you can do in this liffe is become boring and this just happened.

[thelakelander]

I have to agree with Chris.  Stephen, you can do better than that.  Provide the factual documented information to back your accusations.  That's what I was getting at earlier and still believe this argument needs to validate it one way or the other.

[zoo]

Lake, you've just invited the propogandist to re-post... AGAIN! (yawn)

Jason Teal, from General Counsel,  tried to tell them this back in July, and they banned him from the neighborhood.

we can't get rid of hookers and dealers on the corners and thugs slithering over from jefferson street but we can somehow keep Jason out of the neighborhood??

"banned from the neighborhood" -- that, along with much of this thread, is hilarious.

[sheclown]

ok Lake.

  In three years, SPAR has had over $300,000 in unexplained expenses as registered on their 990s.  Other organizations break "other"  on a schedule.  SPAR offers no explanation. 

Has anyone ever tried to get an accounting of this, members, board?  Or is the neighborhood okay with having its money so loosely handled? 

Fact is...it is hard to get information when there is no transparency.  I guess that's why there is no transparency.

[sheclown]

 ok Zoo.

What about the petition to have Jason removed as legal counsel on this in spite of the fact that he has been involved in this from day one?  Why is Shannon Eller now writing any new legislation?

Perhaps, banned from participating in any SPAR business in the neighborhood would be more accurate.

[sheclown]

Fact:  According to SPAR's bylaws, elections are to be held in October...

Who is running for office this year?  When are the elections?

Zoo, you're an appointed board member -- have any answers? 

[Dan B]

There is NOTHING unexplained in the budget. Every month the board gets a full breakdown of what is happening with the budget. These mysterious "other expenses" are security fund.

Think what you will about me, but Phil Collins was the treasurer for my entire time on the board, and he can attest to the accounting from 2005-2008, which seems to be whats being called into question.

[sheclown]

[Lucasjj]

As someone just following along with the conversation, what is the security fund?

[Dan B]

A fund that was set up, though SPAR, to pay for off duty police officers to patrol Springfield.

This is where the vast majority of the money from SRG went.