Would Springfield Be Better Off w/a CDC Organization instead of a "SPAR" type?

[stephendare]

Apparently the organization type that SPAR has, while useful to developers, might not be the best type of structure for the neighborhood.  It clearly doesnt have to have elections, isnt answerable to the neighborhood, and doesnt have to actually do anything.  Its just a 501C3

The way I understand it, MetroNorth, the organization that picks up on Main Street exactly where SPAR leaves off is a CDC, and as a result there is more than a million dollars a year pumped into their organization.

Does anyone know more?

[02roadking]

http://www.liscjacksonville.org/metro-north-cdc.html

[fsu813]

Stephen,

since "advocating" the demo of a propety in the historic district is what set you off, you'll be distrubed to know that RAP has given their approval of demo's in the past.

When is your "Disband RAP!!!" thread going to be started? That one will be ridiculous too.

[sheclown]

A quick look at MetroNorth's tax return

http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/311/311761439/311761439_200712_990.pdf

shows a pretty healthy organization.  Maybe they could just take over the commercial development of Main to first.

[fsu813]

Stephen,

Oh, ok. Since they give seminars it's ok with you if they approve demos?

Interesting.

Your logic becomes more puzzling by the day.

You may not know about it, but does SPAR provide many resources for residents at thier office.

Would you like examples?

Or will you discount those as well, and find another reason?

[fsu813]

(ha)

yet RAP has done the same "henious" thing and you say it's ok.

and you discount the resources SPAR gives, while highlighting RAP's.

and you have extremist views, such as 50 people living in a house is ok & ZERO demo's in a historic district, no matter what the condition of the building.

your arguments, Stephen, boil to to a shorter forumla:

1) exaggerate & misrepresent the info to your liking

2) don't respond when a good counterpoint is made

3) diaparrage all info that conflicts with your presentation

all of this over the single most positive, supported, & productive force in the neighborhood.

i just think you love contraversy & drama. and attention.

[fsu813]

keep on preaching it, brother

[strider]

Just to do a quick summary here…


SPAR Council wants the  funds that are available from LISC and other organizations so they court them and this leads to the violation of the community because the executive board decides no elections, changes it’s by-laws but mucks up the job and has to just totally ignore their by-laws in the end to stay in power.

The ED comes out and essentially says that she wants code enforcement to tear down historic structures whenever she wants them to.

SPAR Council wants to be the driving force behind millions of dollars worth of economic development on Main Street.

Rap does not do this, they , like SPAR Council, were formed for other reasons.

RADO is the organization that does the development rather than RAP.


This leads to the question:  Who should we trust with the responsibility of guiding Main Street’s redevelopment?  The existing, questionable one or someone else?

[fsu813]

Stephen,

My "loyalities" are to not exaggerate and speculate wildy. I'm not any more loyal to SPAR than you, I simply don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Furthermore, I don't assume the worst and most negative scenario to be true, while you are, despite not having all the facts of the matter.

I also, tend to dislike double standards, something which you have embraced wghen it comes to SPAR & RAP. If one approves a demo then it's ok, b/c you're sure it was appropriate. When the other approves one, it has to be for devious reasons. That's not logical.

You are good at propaganda and getting people's attention, wish you would use this for the benefit of something, and not the destruction of something.

I deem you SHARP's head of PR! Now go forth and promote the positive message of this new organization!

[zoo]

Or the Seminars on how best to protect actually historic homes

Restore Jacksonville 2008?

You are good at propaganda and getting people's attention

[ChriswUfGator]

Stephen,

since "advocating" the demo of a propety in the historic district is what set you off, you'll be distrubed to know that RAP has given their approval of demo's in the past.

When is your "Disband RAP!!!" thread going to be started? That one will be ridiculous too.

I'm sorry, maybe I missed where RAP was e-mailing people, trying to subvert the requirements that demolitions within the historic district undergo some form of structural analysis first. Which, for the record, is kind of the point of a historic district, no? To make sure things aren't demolished arbitrarily...

Yeah, maybe you could post those emails for us. And what building exactly did RAP get knocked down?

[CS Foltz]

stephandare.............that sounds like a challange to me! I've posted before...........form a counter organization and go from there! SPAR is not interested in the views of their paying members........more interested in their dues rather than their views! Solid organization just like the COJ Council.......winners all right?