Bus shelter battle heads to Jacksonville City Council

Started by thelakelander, October 09, 2009, 06:55:39 AM

thelakelander

I've heard its been stashed to help pay for the JTA BJP road projects that the city ran out of money for.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

CS Foltz


thelakelander

Quote from: CS Foltz on October 11, 2009, 08:34:42 PM
Something beats nothing at all kids! I guess we will have to settle for a slice instead of a full loaf!

As long as things stay the same (majority of council members support the bus shelter bill), we'll get the full loaf.  So in a month or so, we may be preparing for a quite a few sandwiches.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

thelakelander

Quote from: CS Foltz on October 11, 2009, 09:05:49 PM
Great...........more roads, just what we need!

Until there is a public outcry or we get new leadership, things probably won't change.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

CS Foltz

I agree lake! Public outcry won't happen...........and it will most likely take new leadership! That would be a complete turnover and removal and that won't happen until Johnny leaves!

Charles Hunter

Assuming none of the 10 co-sponsors of the shelter advertising bill change their mind, the bill will pass in a few weeks.  Anyone want to start a pool on how soon one or more of the billboard companies will sue the City over this?  Given the OGC's "skill" at contract writing, there will be loopholes they can drive a bus towing a bus shelter through.

stjr

Quote from: Charles Hunter on October 11, 2009, 09:40:19 PM
Anyone want to start a pool on how soon one or more of the billboard companies will sue the City over this? 

How about faster than Waste Management could sue the City over the landfill?!  (By the way, where is that suit at nowadays?)
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

tufsu1

Quote from: CS Foltz on October 11, 2009, 09:05:49 PM
Great...........more roads, just what we need!

sadly, it is waht Jax. voted for in 2000 w/ the passage of BJP....given that $100 million for transit ROW was also on the project list

stjr

Quote from: tufsu1 on October 11, 2009, 09:59:52 PM
Quote from: CS Foltz on October 11, 2009, 09:05:49 PM
Great...........more roads, just what we need!

sadly, it is waht Jax. voted for in 2000 w/ the passage of BJP....given that $100 million for transit ROW was also on the project list

I voted against BJP.  While I liked some of the projects, such as the new library, I thought most of the money went to the wrong priorities.  I never believed $100 million for mass transit was a sincere effort to get it done since no specific plan was presented (be wary of big ideas with no specifics).  I also didn't think, given past "miscalculations" by public officials, they would be right on the financial projections, and, unfortunately, I was right on that.
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

CS Foltz

I agree gentlemen............I did not vote for it either! Too many questions that were never answered by what I saw! Current Administration is no better than the one that was in power in 2000 and alot of the same people are involved now as was then. We really need to clean house and start over............I don't think rookies can do any worse than the so called professionals we have today!

tufsu1

so now we see the real truth...you don't just hate Peyton...but Delaney too!

CS Foltz

tufsu1......I sure won't turn handsprings over Mr Delaney.....but Johnny has just dropped the ball time and time again......between the Ship Yards episode,Dames Point and the shipping fiasco,dropped concurency,IG Office,contracts that were for someone else's benefit and not the City in general, AIOM's to the tune of 12 Million dollars, Equestrian Center that's a drain..........I mean I could go on and on! Mr Mayor ran on the platform of "Running the City like a business"......remember? If that be the case, we should have declared bankruptcy several years ago......don't forget the "Fee's" to go along with all of that and the Waste Management lawsuit going on........other than that, just a bunch of rank amateurs playing at city government!

Overstreet

Quote from: urbanlibertarian on October 10, 2009, 10:19:42 AM
I just don't understand why people are offended by signs and billboards.  Advertising is an important way for businesses to communicate with potential customers.  It promotes economic activity and economic growth and that's a beautiful thing.

You are forgetting the proliferation of the trailer mounted flashing sign with the removable letters. They were everywhere. The flashing lights on the top would often distract drivers at night making it hard to see the road.

You are forgetting the billboards and signs that blocked the buildings.



thelakelander

QuoteYou are forgetting the billboards and signs that blocked the buildings.

You mean like these?



They are the ones I want back!
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

stjr

Lake, but who wants any of the below back?

By the way, the latest is video/electronic signs and billboards.  I have seen them in Orlando and the Carolinas big time.  What do you think of these signs with motion and ever changing ads?  Even harder to ignore!  Where does it end?  Do we make Downtown a Times Square?  Can we legally limit your signs to Downtown and not the suburbs?  How can we keep the zombies in the cage?

Again, everything in moderation.  Unfortuantely, we do a terrible job of moderating!










Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!