A look at Oakleaf Town Center

[tufsu1]

True.  Unfortunately, when its all added up, there are several more smaller developments going up statewide, in areas with limited to no capacity to support them, then the large developments.  As you already know, this has resulted in some municipalities and counties having impact fees, in addition to concurrency.

Impacte fees pay for long-term future issues...concurrency deals with existing issues

[thelakelander]

But they both go hand in hand in planning.

[gatorback]

Or bad planning lake.  I live in a tax supported TOD.  I love it here.  I think the domain will make it; however, the city gave millions and the state gave millions to do this project to my betterment.  In long run is it the best thing?  I guess if you want super fast growth it's the only way sometimes.

[thelakelander]

Is there a commuter rail station located at the Domain?

[gatorback]

 Capital Metro still hasn't finalized all the locations for the Red Line, the first train going on line.  I was told that the commuter rail will stop here at the domain.  The press is saying the Red Line station will be located behind IBM and Tivoli building.  That there will be shuttle busses running between the domain and that station.  It's .75 miles to where I think the stations is going to be.  I saw a truck out there the other day doing some scouting I guess.   It's a done deal for the Red Line station there.  In the future there will be other services that do stop at the domain I'm sure.  The freight rail line runs right thru the domain basically...it's got to be a no brainier to stop the other lines right here.

[thelakelander]

I just took a look at Google Earth.  The Union Pacific tracks that run through the Domain are planned to serve as apart of a "regional" commuter rail line from Austin to San Antonio.



you can learn more about this second rail line here: http://asarail.org/

[gatorback]

The image is a little small...but there you go.  Notice the Domain is sandwitched between the two line.  The line to the right will be the Red Line.  Google says that the grey blob is IBM, not true any more, but it's really the Domain.  IBM has its new buildings closer to the Red Line. 

[gatorback]

Here’s my guess at the location of the Red Line Station with shuttles to the Domain.  Contractors are out, where I put the 2 black squares on the 2nd. image below, building what could be the transfer location to BRT, feeder buses, and Express buses.  Funny, the Pickle center is right next door. Remember from an earlier post, the Pickle is putting in a Hydrogen Fuel stations and that's where CapitalMetro will fill it Hydrogen Powered Busses.   You can see that straight shot to the location behind the IBM buildings where the media said the station was going.  It would be a short walk to mall, basically crossing over the lot.  They may even bring the shuttle right to the Domain itself.  I could see dillos, or shuttles, running down Centry Oaks Terrace the main drag and to then right to the Red Line station.  Can't wait!  I would go crazy if the Dillos where Hydrogen powered!  That would be Austin to have Hydrogen powered shuttles servicing the Domain.

[dowtown-entrepreneur]

Developments like OakLeaf Plantation, Julington Creek and Nocatee do incur the costs of the new infrastructure. The city/county creates a 2-part 30-year bond to fund the CDD (Community Development District). The first part of the bond is paid by the developer. The second part of the bond is paid by the residents of the CDD. It is added to their mortgage bill. The total can range from an extra $200 a month to $400 a month for eah resident.

[Dapperdan]

I know this is an old thread, but how has the town center panned out? I hear there are talks of a movie theatre. I have been there a few times and the traffic never seemed that bad. I think it is tucked back far enough from everyone else so that it really only services its neighborhood.

[ChriswUfGator]

one of the biggest misconceptions about concurrency is that development doesn't pay its fair share....in fact, large developments in many parts of the state pay more than their fair share....its many of the small projects that get by without having to pay at all.

also important to note is that cities have set up concurrency exception areas to encourage infill development....Jacksonville has done this downtown. 

[tufsu1]

please show me that developments like Oakleaf and Nocatee didn't pay for the roads in their developments....and further, that the property and sales taxes from developments like these don't more than offset the infrastructure costs in the long run.

but hey, don't trust me...do some research on the Fiscal Impact Analysis Model (FIAM)....a study initiated by the state DCA to determine if developments pay for themselves.

[tufsu1]

look up the FIAM...it deals with much more than roads/infrastructure...here's one link

http://www.sfrpc.com/fiam.htm

[ChriswUfGator]

I plan on bringing up tufsu's claims up to the Planning Director at the next MetroJacksonville meeting and getting his take.

Let's see what he thinks about tufsu's claims that large subdivisions pay more than they cost taxpayers...

[BridgeTroll]

Seems like a pretty comprehensive document...

FIAM estimates the costs and revenues associated with land use decisions and project future budget balances, providing local government decision makers with a better understanding of the financial impacts of land use decisions and development plans.  The SFRPC will deliver FIAM and provide technical assistance and training to local governments.

http://www.sfrpc.com/fiam.htm