Just read an article on Yahoo that any Jags fan might be interested in reading. I know this is going to spark some crazy debate....
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-jaguars-weaver&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-jaguars-weaver&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Great. :-[
how has drafting florida gators in the first round gone the last couple years for the jags? Tebow is not an nfl caliber qb and people will find other excuses to not buy tickets.
^ Sure, and the spread will never work in the SEC.
I'm a huge gator fan but I'm not so sure i want the Jags to go that route. Yes if he can be had on the second day of the draft, but that's not a certainty.
Tebow is a high character guy and a quality football player, but he's not a first or second round worthy NFL QB.
This could be a terrible thing for the Jags...the decision might forever alienate either the Tebow-haters or the Tebow faithful. So that the fan base is not divided, I hope Tebow is taken first in the draft and that we have no chance of getting him. ;)
He would waist his talents here in Jax sadly to say.
We have no o-line to protect him. Plus he likes to run...we have our little bowling ball for that so we wouldnt need a running qb.
I think Jax is where QBs go to die anyway lol.
ALTHOUGH the rev. that he would bring into Jax couldnt hurt.
You can go here to really show your Tebow to the Jags love. The guy who created this site was on local sports radio station 1010XL plugging this today.
http://draft15.com/
I'll leave the evaluation up to Gene Smith, but Tebow = revenue for sure. I would like to see him play here. I think the Jags could use an infusion of "hustle". But either way, I'll renew my season tix.
I love the Gators but #15 is not a "pro style" QB. It's very questionable if he would make the Jaguars or any NFL team better. He would definitely sell tickets if drafted by the Jags, but how many? The 15,000 needed to sell out the stadium? Football fans in Jax are accustomed to watching him on TV.
When will this end.
^ this is just the beginning. Wait until the season is over and we get closer to draft day.
Tebow is by all accounts a great guy and a tremendous college quarterback/fullback. That doesn't translate that well into an NFL offense. Time will tell.
I don't think drafting Tebow or any other high profile college player will change anything. Jacksonville needs to get it together and start supporting this team or one morning all of us will wake up and headlines will read "Jaguars move to Los Angeles."
And it will be without explanation believe me. (the Baltimore syndrome)
Heights Unknown
His cute plays he has does the past 2 years will get his ass injured in the pros. Most NFL teams are not willing to risk money and such for a QB that is likely to run for TDs a lot, as it is too much of a liability.
Jags fans are not interesting in Tebow. Jags need to win and fans need to be real fans end of story.
I am a Gator hater, but I am on the fence on the "Tebow being drafted by the Jags" conversation. The one thing about him that is really clear is he is a hard worker and you can't discount that. He has the size and he can scramble.... But does he have the arm for the NFL and can he get a stronger arm once in the NFL... He obviously doesn't let off field issues get to him... The one thing you never hear in the NFL though is that a QB busts his butt and still does not succeed... and to whoever posted we don't have an O line, we have a decent O line that in the next 2-3 years will be one of the best O lines in the league and still young..... I also think with the way he reaches out to the community, he could definitely sell enough tix to have the games on TV.... I guess we will see what happens next year... But Garard and Mcown are not the future QB's of the Jacksonville Jaguars..... thats a fact....
These discussions are already old and tiresome. is there an "ignore thread" feature?
In a few months, it will turn to "The Jags should have drafted Tebow!"
Gene Smith and the Jaguars had a dynamite draft this year. I don't think they would draft Tebow to appease a small minority of fence straddling Jaguar fans.
He already has the arm strength. The alleged problem is his throwing mechanics and ability to read defenses. Those things MIGHT be fixable. Maybe. If I were Mr. Weaver I would want signed contracts with fans obligating them to buy season tickets if Tebow is drafted. Enough contracts to fill 10,000 seats before I would commit to drafting him.
Is it April 1st.
Now that is doing buisness urbanlibertarian!
Quote from: urbanlibertarian on September 17, 2009, 08:43:11 PM
Enough contracts to fill 10,000 seats before I would commit to drafting him.
You'd also need enough to make up for the people who sign contracts not to buy tickets if he's drafted.
Enough, let's wait til the season is over and we can see whether he's developed as a passer and what the draft order is.
K guys. The Jags suck. A lot. Even more than that. They suck more than the worst seasons of the Bucs and Dolphins combined -- WHY? Because no one wants to go see those games. However, I, poor no-lawnmower-teacher-salary self that I am would gladly plunk down $30 or $40 a ticket (teacher prices, natch) to see Tebow play with the Jags.
Moreover, Tebow could get away with playing like a maniac the first two seasons because no one had really encountered that sort of play-style before. You'll notice that after the Old Miss game, he changed his playing style to fit more with the team.
He's very coachable and very popular. The Jags would be stupid not to pick him. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if Tebow "missed" the filing deadline and went with the 2nd draft to the Jags.
Hey guys I saw this on facebook. Looks like some people have started a movement!! Join and have power in numbers!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=133448463903#/group.php?gid=133448463903 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=133448463903#/group.php?gid=133448463903)
Nobody wants to see those games because they are not true fans end of story. One reason the Jags are not a good team is because of bad drafting. They've learned from those mistake, therefore the Jags would be stupid to pick him. Wow you Tebow people are in for a real surprise next year.
The Jags first round picks suck anyway, what is the worst Tebow could do? Our QB now is worth 60 million and he was a second round pick. Weaver should clean house of all of them. Del Rio would rather build a 1-9-1 defense and toy with it all year long than find a way to score some points.
Quote from: heights unknown on September 16, 2009, 10:11:36 PM
I don't think drafting Tebow or any other high profile college player will change anything. Jacksonville needs to get it together and start supporting this team or one morning all of us will wake up and headlines will read "Jaguars move to Los Angeles."
And it will be without explanation believe me. (the Baltimore syndrome)
Heights Unknown
This is my worst nightmare, however, I do think Tebow would help sell tickets. I do agree the people of Jax need to do a much better job of supporting the Jags.
Any word on that multi-billion dollar stadium Los Angeles has proposed. I know there was somesort of lawsuit?
Just came across these in another forum. Figured I'd post them in this thread.
(http://blogs.trb.com/sports/zakks-sports-smack/tebow-jesus.jpg)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/Florida/Tebow_is_Risen.jpg)
Blasphemy Lake...except for the Gator colored Crocs he is rocking. Irony at its best. :-X
Seriously? Tim Tebow play here? HA! He'd have the worse damn QB completion average in the LEAGUE! If Fred Taylor were to of been drafted by ANY OTHER TEAM right out of Florida, he would b up to 20,000+ yards by now, not 11k. Do NOT Draft Tim Tebow, Slackuars, please let him go to a team where he WILL have a successful career. Not here where he's bound to get injured in the first 2-3 seasons because the offensive line is such a sorry sad sack of shit, that they just as soon step out of the way and let opposing defense have their way with the QB's.
Umm, what makes you think he couldn't get injured on another team? Injuries happen to nearly every single player at some point in their career, whether it be short or long.
We also have one of the youngest, if not THE youngest team in the NFL. Nearly half the roster are rookie players or new to the Jags.
One thing you need to learn is to not make assumptions as whether he'd be more prone to injury as a Jaguar or a Steeler. That goes for not just Tebow, but any player.
Lastly, he isn't even done with college football yet, he could get a terrible injury that ends his football career before he ever graduates from UF and never see NFL playing time. So, give it a break.
With the Jags? My money is on ANY other team than the Jags. I DID make that assumption and WILL stand by it.
Completely unrelated, but the hierarchy here at Metro Jacksonville push for light-rail cars to make a come-back to Jacksonville... I don't see that happening as long as we're dishing out money for a team going nowhere fast, WITH or without a "young" team.
Well you can have your assumption, because in the sports world, you sound like a total dumbass.
Hey, sounds harsh, but it is reality.
Quote from: reednavy on October 11, 2009, 11:42:04 PM..................One thing you need to learn is to not make assumptions as whether he'd be more prone to injury as a Jaguar or a Steeler...........
Not the dark side. Tebow is too nice a kid to go to the Steelers.
Quote from: deathstar on October 12, 2009, 01:59:50 AM
With the Jags? My money is on ANY other team than the Jags. I DID make that assumption and WILL stand by it.
Completely unrelated, but the hierarchy here at Metro Jacksonville push for light-rail cars to make a come-back to Jacksonville... I don't see that happening as long as we're dishing out money for a team going nowhere fast, WITH or without a "young" team.
Ummm..... want to insult our mothers while you're at it? Way to clearly show your immaturity. SDare must be sleeping in, or he would have already laid on the logic pretty thick.
Tebow won't be a quarterback in the NFL. He could be better used elsewhere.
Quote from: Overstreet on October 12, 2009, 08:04:43 AM
Not the dark side. Tebow is too nice a kid to go to the Steelers.
I mentioned the Steelers only because they're the SB champs and the "top" team until the next Super Bowl.
Quote from: deathstar on October 11, 2009, 11:26:56 PM
Do NOT Draft Tim Tebow, Slackuars, please let him go to a team where he WILL have a successful career.
What makes you think Tebow will have a successful career in the NFL? I don't believe the Tebow hype, nor do I want him here. The onlt thing he can do here in Jacksonville is bring a bunch of gators to watch the Jags. Of course that will wear off when they find out that he is an awful qb.
Want to see an NFL quarterback that is in college now? Watch a Notre Dame game. Clausen is the real deal.
Clausen is a good qb, I really like him, but I doubt we will draft him. We'll go and get some gator scrub and watch as they crap it up on the football field. Oh yea, please trash Harvey and Nelson, they suck more than donkey nuts.
Actually, Nelson hasn't played that bad this year. Harvey has been awful.
Quote from: copperfiend on October 12, 2009, 11:49:32 AM
Actually, Nelson hasn't played that bad this year. Harvey has been awful.
compared to harvey, nelson is a superstar, but to be a 1st round draft pick, he is not good. i say let's not ever draft anyone from florida again, well at least not a first day pick
Tebow for the Jaguars? Yes! Bring him!!! ;D He'll do great for this team. Probably he would makke the Jaguars a hot ticket in town again. Tebow + Jaguars = Superbowl! :D
Quote from: copperfiend on October 12, 2009, 11:49:32 AM
Actually, Nelson hasn't played that bad this year. Harvey has been awful.
Nelson is playing in the nickel spot... not a position you draft in the first round.
Quote from: jeh1980 on October 12, 2009, 01:20:06 PM
Tebow for the Jaguars? Yes! Bring him!!! ;D He'll do great for this team. Probably he would makke the Jaguars a hot ticket in town again. Tebow + Jaguars = Superbowl! :D
No
Quote from: Shwaz on October 12, 2009, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: jeh1980 on October 12, 2009, 01:20:06 PM
Tebow for the Jaguars? Yes! Bring him!!! ;D He'll do great for this team. Probably he would makke the Jaguars a hot ticket in town again. Tebow + Jaguars = Superbowl! :D
No
I also would say no, but if this was a bet i would bet they will draft him.
Jags dont need another tight-end,, so no.
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on October 12, 2009, 03:19:32 PM
Jags dont need another tight-end,, so no.
depends, can tebow catch??
Quote from: reednavy on October 12, 2009, 06:14:35 AM
Well you can have your assumption, because in the sports world, you sound like a total dumbass.
Hey, sounds harsh, but it is reality.
You're... how old? I could care less what someone thinks of me, I'm Man enough to let anyone know what I think about Tim Tebow going to the Jaguars, and don't give a damn what they think of me.
P.S. Look at what happened to Tebow when he took his time in the Kentucky game. Blindsided hit, surely would of shooken him quite a bit with that hit alone, but a fellow teammates knee was in the wrong place, wrong time. When he's not taking his time looking downfield, he's running the ball. In the NFL, that won't happen. With the Jaguars, who I don't have a lot of faith in, (I'm a Bucs fan at that), I see Tebow getting just as much attention in the form of sacks just as much as him possibly going to Jax.
Where did I call into question your masculinity or mention that you should give a damn?
Do you know, 100% that he won't run the ball in the pros? Last time I checked, QB's have two options when receivers aren't open, either run the ball, or throw it away. Only about 25% or so run it, the remainder throw it away.
Injuries happen to nearly all players at some point in their career, and if he makes it to Sundays, then he'll probably get injured again to some part of his body for any period of time.
P.S., if you're a Bucs fan, I'd worry more about them than a team that has one more win that they do.
Bucs are winless.
Quote(I'm a Bucs fan at that),
Hows that workin out for ya?
Quote from: BridgeTroll on October 13, 2009, 02:05:17 PM
Quote(I'm a Bucs fan at that),
Hows that workin out for ya?
cant be as bad as being a Jags fan at the moment
Quote from: Sportmotor on October 13, 2009, 08:03:04 PM
cant be as bad as being a Jags fan at the moment
At least we have wins, unlike them. They're in a tailspin as well, much worse than we are.
Quote from: heights unknown on September 16, 2009, 10:11:36 PM
I don't think drafting Tebow or any other high profile college player will change anything. Jacksonville needs to get it together and start supporting this team or one morning all of us will wake up and headlines will read "Jaguars move to Los Angeles."
And it will be without explanation believe me. (the Baltimore syndrome)
Heights Unknown
>:( We have given the jaguars all we can if Wayne Weaver wants to move I will help him pack. Back in 1995 I thought this is great but after all the Money we have put into keeping the Jaguars Happy. We just can't keep it up maybe Wayne needs a Sugar Daddy why doesn't the Boy mayor put up a lot of the Gate cash. Its been fun but waiting to see if the great Tim Tebow becomes a Jaguar to me isn't worth it :P
Quote from: Sportmotor on October 13, 2009, 08:03:04 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on October 13, 2009, 02:05:17 PM
Quote(I'm a Bucs fan at that),
Hows that workin out for ya?
cant be as bad as being a Jags fan at the moment
WHAT look at (Oakland) that team has Sucked for years and the fans still come out for the games.
At the rate the Rams are going, they may either wind up back in L.A., or wind up somewhere like Omaha.
Quote from: JaxBorn1962 on October 13, 2009, 11:41:05 PM
WHAT look at (Oakland) that team has Sucked for years and the fans still come out for the games.
Our fans are horrible! Most dont show to games, the team WILL move I'm so willing to bet on it when the contract is up. The fans are so bad to the jags its embarrsing to be one lol
Interesting story in the TU yesterday. Sports writers are writing to save their jobs. Without the Jags, the TU has a need for fewer writers, so they are on their soap boxes now as well, just be forewarned.
Sure the Titans are winless, but they are still getting close to 70,000 per game in their stadium. However, the TU fails to mention how many of those are season ticket holders who have seats as a result of last years' season for the Titans.
So keep it all in perspective.
Been watching NFL network and comments from the commish. Looks like the Stadium project for L.A. is going to be a reality. The NFL is and the possible new ownership group are looking at possible franchises to move there. The commish has mentioned a stadium and team to be in place around 2013. L.A. is very likely going to get an existing team...
The only question is which city loses.
The Chargers make the most sense.
Quote from: BridgeTroll on October 14, 2009, 10:35:14 AM
Been watching NFL network and comments from the commish. Looks like the Stadium project for L.A. is going to be a reality. The NFL is and the possible new ownership group are looking at possible franchises to move there. The commish has mentioned a stadium and team to be in place around 2013. L.A. is very likely going to get an existing team...
The only question is which city loses.
Chargers or Jags, guess it would depend on what would be a better financal move
If Weaver's kids don't start taking more of an interest in the team, as he has mentioned on more than one occasion, Weaver may sell it off. Franchises that do well, have family involved for more than 1 generation. Unless Weaver's get more involved, I don't think its economics, unless another local Jax person buys the team and keeps it here.
Weaver won't sell the team.
Vikings have stadium issues also...
I'm afraid is cheaper & easier to build a new stadium than a local fan base.
Reed, Tampa might not be so great now, but they have a Super Bowl Championship. Just sayin'. Oh, move there? Why yes, I'm already planning to :)
Well, if you have a SB title in the bag, you shouldn't be in the condition you're in right now, not matter how long or recent it was.
Quote from: copperfiend on October 14, 2009, 10:45:43 AM
Weaver won't sell the team.
Don't Bet on that (Every man has his price)!
If Wayne Weaver has no one to take over the team, he will sell it. Why hold onto it? His kids have shown no interest, who locally would take over his share of the team, since he holds the majority of the shares?
Another Tebow graphic on a college message board....
(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz49/roses00/Tebow_looks_Terrific.jpg)
That's quite appauling actually.
However, fitting in a messed up way.
I will have that image in my nightmares.
Quote from: reednavy on October 15, 2009, 06:21:26 AM
Well, if you have a SB title in the bag, you shouldn't be in the condition you're in right now, not matter how long or recent it was.
True, however I think Miami's bad luck has rubbed off on Bucs and Jags. Them darned Dolphins.
Eye ball test I think Ponder looks like the pick. But things change fast.
Oh and Percy called he want's his Heisman. ;D
Ponder does look like the real deal, but i doubt he comes out this year
Man, Ponder was ON FIRE in the 4th quarter last night. Hopefully the Noles can get the defense in order soon.
and remember, Ponder threw for almost 400 yards agains what was the #1 pass defense in I-A
Too bad he plays for lame duck coach. The kid ought to transfer before its too late. ;D
sorry Lake...he's already working on his masters degree...probably a tad too smart for the "U"
Tebow looks awful tonight. I still don't see how anybody can think he is an NFL QB.
Me either, runs more than he throws, one hit from Ray Lewis season over.
and 2 INTs returned for TDs....Ed Reed is salivating!
The Florida defense is what everyone should be talking about if Miss state had a good offense, gators might have suffered their first lost tonight. I give them credit though, finding a way to win.
It should be interesting to watch on Halloween against UGA. Both teams are sputtering and can't seem to hit a stride.
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on October 25, 2009, 12:30:11 AM
The Florida defense is what everyone should be talking about if Miss state had a good offense, gators might have suffered their first lost tonight. I give them credit though, finding a way to win.
Its been the story all year. LSU has a crap QB and almost beats Florida. Miss State has no offense aside from a solid RB and almost beats Florida.
They should match them with Boise State, just to see what happens.
Here's one for the road.....
(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/TAMPABLACK13/1260060168610.jpg)
Thank you Lake. Sometimes Christmas comes a little early. It was nice to hear the chorus of gently sobbing gator fans yesterday. Probably something we'll be hearing more of with Tebow on the way out.
Another reason not to draft him. He cries because he loses, like a child not getting his way. Pulease, enough Tim Tearbow, put your big boy undies on and suck it up.
Quote from: reednavy on December 07, 2009, 02:06:08 AM
Another reason not to draft him. He cries because he loses, like a child not getting his way. Pulease, enough Tim Tearbow, put your big boy undies on and suck it up.
I would like to see you go out on the field and take 1/8th the amount of hits or plays he has to before you open your mouth. I bet you tear up after the first hit.
I have the upmost respect to anyone who can go out on the field and take hits, get up laught and go at it time and again.
Yes he cryed, everyone forgets the huge amount of pressure people place on him, and he does himself. Cry or not he is still an encredible collage player (no idea how he will be in the pros)
reednavy, get over yourself.
Troy Aikman cried a lot more than that when he retired. So did Brett Frave, if I remember right. Are you going to call them babies? Obviously Tebow felt he let himself and everyone else down. At least he gives a sh*t, which is more than can be said for a lot of professional athletes. That is why college football is so superior to NFL, BTW. The emotions are real, raw and not generated by million dollar paychecks.
I have a lot more respect for a man that refrains from kicking someone else when their down, than for showing geniuine emotion.
I don't think that he was crying because they lost the game. I believe after the interception Brandon Spikes gave him an eye gouge.
Seriously??
If anyone argues that there is a player in college football who is more passionate than Tim Tebow, I'd gladly pay to get your head examined.
It was obvious that at the end of the first half Tim Tebow tried to do what he always does; put the football team, the Gator fans, and the game on his shoulders and carry them into the end-zone. Unfortunately it was too little too late and Alabama was just too good.
Tebow cried, Urban Meyer teared up, Nick Saban was fighting off tears and I'm sure dozens of lesser known players and staff watered up with tears of sadness or delight. If Tebow hadn't cried I would have been upset. With the amount of heart, soul, energy, and work he has put into the last 4 years, to lose this close to a 3rd national championship must have been crushing.
In an example you can relate to, how many times has Peyton Manning cried after a mid-season, unimportant, loss to the Jags??? I'd need at least too hands to count the number of times I've seen him cry. Tom Brady was nearly crying yesterday.
If it weren't for the pros, a a good percentge of college players wouldn't play as hard. They're motivated by the dollar signs they might get if they make it to the NFL.
I'm enjoiying watching the overly sensitive gator fans defend Tebow's tears though. Gator fans are so spoiled by winning they're forgetting how to lose gracefully. Take the jokes and grow some skin! Let us gator-haters have this one, it's not often we get the chance. :D
I take no issue with the jokes, it's the asinine statements by reednavy that put me over the top.
Normally I'd agree with you about the $$ motivating college players, but not in Tebow's case. Clearly that's the only thing Carlos Dunlap cared about or he would have acted more maturely.
I would be quite pleased if this debate could be boycotted for a few days.
It was old long ago. Give the mourners a chance to weep.
^ good point.
too soon.
^Exactly David, I'm a huge Gator and I understand that if we were losing we wouldn't be as hated as we are right now. So enjoy the fact that Alabama won, and that Florida won't be winning a championship this year...I know its surprising to us Gator fans too.
The only thing that eases my pain is we've lost two games in two years, and won two NC's in three years. Oh, and Tebow can wipe his tears with his Heisman, haters.
I can't believe some of you took my comment seriously, lighten the hell up. Anyone heard of sarcasm around here?
He has excellent passion for the game and had a lot of pressure to reaeat last year's season, and that is helluva lot to deal with. He probably felt like he let everyone down, but dude, it is nearly impossible to repeat back to back seasons as a National Champion, very few have done it.
The way they played the other night, it was as if they walked into Atlanta figuring it would be easy and left their soul in Alachua County. Well, that didn't happen as planned, and Bama wiped the floor with the entire team. Even Superman can only do so much, the entire team on both sides were not on the same page.
That said though, I have doubts about his ability to perform at the NFL level. When you set your expectations bar so high, it can come crashing down, and it did Saturday night.
Thought this might interest some folks.
Tebow to the Panthers?
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/panthers/story/1208969.html
QuoteJacksonville Jaguars general manager Rick Smith said that's normal for quarterbacks early during practice weeks for all-star games and that "I think we're being almost too critical at times with a guy who didn't work under the center maybe a lot in college."
Smith and the Jaguars live in the epicenter of where Tebow is most popular and many expect them to draft him in order to boost ticket sales.
"We know him probably better than any other NFL team," said Smith. "He's from Jacksonville.
"We certainly feel he's one of the better competitors in all of college football. Whether it's in Jacksonville or somewhere else, we feel he'll do well no matter what he pursues."
Who the hell is this 'Rick' guy? :D
^ I was wondering that too
I hope we are able to trade down to the lower 1st and get Tim and a second round pick.
Still, no thanks, not with UF's track record at producing QBs.
Alot of the Jag fans will backlash on the Jags if they dont make an attempt at getting Tebow
I hope they get em would be good for the team ;D
Well, that just means more fair-weather fans will be gone. Oh darn!
Quote from: reednavy on January 28, 2010, 04:47:53 PM
Still, no thanks, not with UF's track record at producing QBs.
Individual players should be judged, not the program producing them, especially at QB...not very many nfl contributing quarterbacks come out in the draft every year. QB is a unique position anyway because you are not really part of a unit, like a corner back or offensive lineman.
Jacksonville can hardly afford to lose any fans, "fair weather" or not
Will somebody please kill this thread?!!!!
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on January 28, 2010, 08:30:54 PM
Will somebody please kill this thread?!!!!
lol I sadly have to agree
Quote from: jason_contentdg on January 28, 2010, 07:01:29 PM
Individual players should be judged, not the program producing them, especially at QB...not very many nfl contributing quarterbacks come out in the draft every year. QB is a unique position anyway because you are not really part of a unit, like a corner back or offensive lineman.
I realize that, but given UF's many decade track record of QBs sucking wind at the pro level, it is hard to overlook it.
Quote from: Sportmotor on January 28, 2010, 07:07:36 PM
Jacksonville can hardly afford to lose any fans, "fair weather" or not
If they do draft him, just for ticket sales, and he fails to produce, they'll lose em anyways. Honestly, we need to concentrate on drafting OL players and WRs. Garrard is a descent QB, but has a shitty OL protecting him and penetration happened on nearly every other play it seemed last season.
I just think we could honestly use our draft picks more wisely than drafting a guy for ticket sales and possibly being a total waste of money. We can't afford to lose fans, but damn sure can't afford to lose fans and a couple million sitting on the bench, doing nothing.
watching the senior bowl and tebow is nowhere near ready to be an nfl qb. i sure hope the jags don't make the mistake of taking him too early.
Quote from: hanjin1 on January 30, 2010, 07:01:52 PM
watching the senior bowl and tebow is nowhere near ready to be an nfl qb. i sure hope the jags don't make the mistake of taking him too early.
Yeah, he'll be lucky to go in the 3rd round IMO now. His draft stock took a heavy hit , which I was expecting.
I admit it, I'm laughing, especially at everyone that think he walks on water.
Quit thinking sports and start thinking business y'all. Whatever Tebow is or isn't, lunitic or zealot, straight or gay, etc... his ability to draw the media and fans like fly's to honey is undeniable. Gator Nation loves him. We better pray the Jag's get him, and get him tomorrow, because Tebow brings one sure thing to Metropolitan Stadium...
If he fills the seats, I don't care if he wears his cleats on his head, just go after him quick.
"CHA - CHING", "CHA - CHING", "CHA - CHING!"
OCKLAWAHA
Quote from: Ocklawaha on January 30, 2010, 07:44:30 PM
Quit thinking sports and start thinking business y'all. Whatever Tebow is or isn't, lunitic or zealot, straight or gay, etc... his ability to draw the media and fans like fly's to honey is undeniable. Gator Nation loves him. We better pray the Jag's get him, and get him tomorrow, because Tebow brings one sure thing to Metropolitan Stadium...
If he fills the seats, I don't care if he wears his cleats on his head, just go after him quick.
"CHA - CHING", "CHA - CHING", "CHA - CHING!"
OCKLAWAHA
Ock...I can promise you those adoring fans won't be around long if he plays like he did today.
i believe that he could sell some seats the first year, but if he turns into a dud like he looks to be, how much longer do you think gator nation will continue to fill the seats, especially if he isn't playing? i would not want to throw a 1st, 2nd or 3rd rounder away just to maybe sell some more seats. You can already see what has happened to the jags for basically throwing away there last few 1st round draft picks.
Ock-- we dont need more gimmicks. The Jags cant afford to make more mistakes in drafting. Were still paying for that right now. I like Tebow, but the Jags already have good tight ends, Jaxson-Deville position is not open, we have the roar, so I dont know where Tebow will fit in.
Team Chaplain.
Doesn't matter if he can play a lick... He's got all the stuff that Southron ledgends are made of, IE: "Hometown boy does good..." That's 1/2 the battle right there. The other half are those not apparent to our resident Yankee's, such as "We got him IN UNIFORM!" He talks like us! Tebow knows the code, if a Southron coach points to "Yonder" he understands where "Yonder" is. He could easily be voted a future "Good ole' Boy." The boy knows that "fixin" can be used as a noun, a verb, or an adverb. He LIVES here! Calls our town "Home." Went to high school in Jacksonville. He's a member of First Baptist Church of Jacksonville (that accounts for about 2/3RDS of the executives with corporate buying power in town). He's a GATOR! He'll NEVER use a metrojacksonville pseudonym like "TUFSU1" or "FSUJAX". He's from a winning tradition. Tebow understands the difference between a conniption fit and a hissy fit. He's never paid $25 dollars to watch some fool feed the damn alligators. He like collard greens, ham hocks, and grits. He knows what to say, and how to act in a room full of Jefferson BY GOD Davis' descendants. Stephendare and I can both speak to him and understand EVERYTHING he says. No matter how bad he played last week, Tim knows there is NOTHING that can happen on the field that a large plate of fried chicken won't fix. When he explained the blown play, he said "He caught himself lookin..." This is something EVERY Jacksonville, born and bred citizen fully understands. It's been reported that he once taught SOUTHRON as a second language.
The boy is a win - win - win situation!
OCKLAWAHA
Get some sleep OCK!
Man, after seeing his performance in the Senior Bowl, I've downgraded him even more so. His foot work is horrible, under or over throws, and got stripped of the ball and fumbled. He needs quite a bit of work and the experts and coaches really grilled his azz after yesterday's horrible performance.
Our work is needed on the OL and Defense, not another QB. Although I wouldn't complain if Colt McCoy found his way to our sidelines.
Quote from: Ocklawaha on January 30, 2010, 07:44:30 PM
Quit thinking sports and start thinking business y'all. Whatever Tebow is or isn't, lunitic or zealot, straight or gay, etc... his ability to draw the media and fans like fly's to honey is undeniable. Gator Nation loves him. We better pray the Jag's get him, and get him tomorrow, because Tebow brings one sure thing to Metropolitan Stadium...
If he fills the seats, I don't care if he wears his cleats on his head, just go after him quick.
"CHA - CHING", "CHA - CHING", "CHA - CHING!"
OCKLAWAHA
Actually I think his biggest draw is he is the Good Christan boy, to alot of people.
Here is a great picture for you Gator fans. Go Canes!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-tPInbVUH6g/S3Vyh7hSTyI/AAAAAAAABLE/oLc0zqD8cRU/s400/TDCblog021210.jpg)
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2010/02/caption_contest_tebow_and_the_1.html
lmao, tool.
??? He's a good kid and an outstanding athlete. Whatever he does in the future, he has behaved in a manner that most of us respect and admire and he has a record on the football field that is unquestionably fantastic. Why the sour grapes? We should applaud the college athlete's that behave like gentlemen and ladies and act as good examples. We should condemn those that get the most exposure in our media, the wannabe thugs and dopers, the wife/girlfriend beaters and the loudmouth boors.
I tire of the Tebow talk too, but he has done nothing but what he was supposed to do. The haters must hate.
If they don't do it, who will?
Double tool! Jax would be a bad move for him. If he and the Jags don't perform and win a lot of games, Gator Nation will quit filling the seats in Jax and go back to watching the winning ways of UF. IMO, for his own personal reasons, he needs to play out of town. Win or lose out of town, Gator Nation will still love him.
Quote from: JaxNative68 on February 17, 2010, 10:39:37 PM
Double tool! Jax would be a bad move for him. If he and the Jags don't perform and win a lot of games, Gator Nation will quit filling the seats in Jax and go back to watching the winning ways of UF. IMO, for his own personal reasons, he needs to play out of town. Win or lose out of town, Gator Nation will still love him.
The winning ways of UF are soon to become fewer, IMO.
Take that, Dan Hicken!
NotNow, maybe because a number of us are sick of the media circle jerk for this guy the past 4 years and counting. Yes, he's a great person, good college athlete, but after seeing performance during the Senior Bowl, not so sure. We'll see at the combine next week if he has evolved, or if his draft stock will stay unchanged or plumet further. Besides that, I'm sick of hearin about him, and the Gator fans needs to STFU because the Tebow era is over, he's old news now, and it is time to move on. I'm also not a fan of his preachy style of talk and all, it has gotten old.
Bucket: Better record next year, Jags or Gators?
It's amazing to me how God has overlooked all the bad doings in this world in order to make sure Tebow played good college football.
Quote from: reednavy on February 17, 2010, 10:42:43 PM
NotNow, maybe because a number of us are sick of the media circle jerk for this guy the past 4 years and counting. Yes, he's a great person, good college athlete, but after seeing performance during the Senior Bowl, not so sure. We'll see at the combine next week if he has evolved, or if his draft stock will stay unchanged or plumet further. Besides that, I'm sick of hearin about him, and the Gator fans needs to STFU because the Tebow era is over, he's old news now, and it is time to movQuote from: reednavy on February 17, 2010, 10:42:43 PM
NotNow, maybe because a number of us are sick of the media circle jerk for this guy the past 4 years and counting. Yes, he's a great person, good college athlete, but after seeing performance during the Senior Bowl, not so sure. We'll see at the combine next week if he has evolved, or if his draft stock will stay unchanged or plumet further. Besides that, I'm sick of hearin about him, and the Gator fans needs to STFU because the Tebow era is over, he's old news now, and it is time to move on. I'm also not a fan of his preachy style of talk and all, it has gotten old.
e on. I'm also not a fan of his preachy style of talk and all, it has gotten old.
Dude, you sure f'd up that quotation in your post.
Reed,
He won the Heisman, he won some National Championships. He was on a local (sorta) team that did good. He is a religious kid, but hardly "preachy". He is a college football player. Lighten up.
I blame it on the iPhone. The quote was so long, I couldn't get it to scroll to the bottom, where I should have made my entry. I've f'ed up a lot today on quotes with this little gadget.
Quote from: NotNow on February 17, 2010, 10:52:58 PM
Reed,
He won the Heisman, he won some National Championships. He was on a local (sorta) team that did good. He is a religious kid, but hardly "preachy". He is a college football player. Lighten up.
Wrong, he is no longer a college football player. That ended the day after they won the Sugar Bowl, that day, he was just another student at UF-Gainesville.
Preachy, as in the God Bless and the way he talks in news conferences is so annoying, in addition to that lisp.
I don't like him as an athlete, so let me have my opinion. As a regular person, he's done nothing particularly special in my books. Yeah, he's a missionary and a preacher of "God's word", but so are a lot of other people, he just has more recognition with the last name Tebow.
When all you hear really from Espn is Tebow this and Tebow that and form other media outlets, it gets old and you begin to dislike the person, no matter what.
Back on subject, no I honestly do not believe he'll be that great of a player, sure as hell not starter material, and likely 3rd string, at best right now. If the Jags select him, which I doubt, they'll practically be throwing a draft spot and money away, plain and simple. We need starters, especially in receiving an OL positions.
I'm entitled to my opinion, if you don't like it, well then, boo hoo.
This thread is still alive huh!!!!
Quote from: JaxNative68 on February 17, 2010, 10:42:57 PM
Bucket: Better record next year, Jags or Gators?
Gators, no doubt....I think they'll be down next year but they'll still win 8 games.
Remember that an 8-4 regular seaon is dissapointing in college, yet 10-6 will usually get you in the playoffs in the NFL.
Quote from: buckethead on February 17, 2010, 10:40:40 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on February 17, 2010, 10:39:37 PM
Double tool! Jax would be a bad move for him. If he and the Jags don't perform and win a lot of games, Gator Nation will quit filling the seats in Jax and go back to watching the winning ways of UF. IMO, for his own personal reasons, he needs to play out of town. Win or lose out of town, Gator Nation will still love him.
The winning ways of UF are soon to become fewer, IMO.
Take that, Dan Hicken!
How so?
I mean Florida finally has gotten rid of that horrible, non-nfl prototypical qb and now has an nfl prototypical qb ready to start...c'mon. And the only position that may have a drop this year is cornerback. They've on paper, upgraded at almost every position in recruiting this past year...
Quote from: jason_contentdg on February 18, 2010, 08:39:29 AM
Quote from: buckethead on February 17, 2010, 10:40:40 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on February 17, 2010, 10:39:37 PM
Double tool! Jax would be a bad move for him. If he and the Jags don't perform and win a lot of games, Gator Nation will quit filling the seats in Jax and go back to watching the winning ways of UF. IMO, for his own personal reasons, he needs to play out of town. Win or lose out of town, Gator Nation will still love him.
The winning ways of UF are soon to become fewer, IMO.
Take that, Dan Hicken!
How so?
I mean Florida finally has gotten rid of that horrible, non-nfl prototypical qb and now has an nfl prototypical qb ready to start...c'mon. And the only position that may have a drop this year is cornerback. They've on paper, upgraded at almost every position in recruiting this past year...
Florida really screwed up during the recruiting season, too - we let USC beat us out for the number one class of recruits and had to settle for second place!
Quote from: NotNow on February 17, 2010, 10:52:58 PM
Reed,
He won the Heisman, he won some National Championships. He was on a local (sorta) team that did good. He is a religious kid, but hardly "preachy". He is a college football player. Lighten up.
+1
Also I got the opratunity to meet Tebow good guy. Love to seem him here in Jax.
GO GATORS & GO TEBOW
USC's #1 recruiting ranking is dependent upon Seantrel Henderson signing his letter of intent, which may or may not happen depending on what the NCAA does. He may end up at Ohio State, or possibly even Miami.
Quote from: reednavy on February 17, 2010, 11:02:53 PM
Quote from: NotNow on February 17, 2010, 10:52:58 PM
Reed,
He won the Heisman, he won some National Championships. He was on a local (sorta) team that did good. He is a religious kid, but hardly "preachy". He is a college football player. Lighten up.
Wrong, he is no longer a college football player. That ended the day after they won the Sugar Bowl, that day, he was just another student at UF-Gainesville.
Preachy, as in the God Bless and the way he talks in news conferences is so annoying, in addition to that lisp.
I don't like him as an athlete, so let me have my opinion. As a regular person, he's done nothing particularly special in my books. Yeah, he's a missionary and a preacher of "God's word", but so are a lot of other people, he just has more recognition with the last name Tebow.
When all you hear really from Espn is Tebow this and Tebow that and form other media outlets, it gets old and you begin to dislike the person, no matter what.
Back on subject, no I honestly do not believe he'll be that great of a player, sure as hell not starter material, and likely 3rd string, at best right now. If the Jags select him, which I doubt, they'll practically be throwing a draft spot and money away, plain and simple. We need starters, especially in receiving an OL positions.
I'm entitled to my opinion, if you don't like it, well then, boo hoo.
OK, OK, don't get your panties in a wad. I didn't realize how important this was to you. Continue to curse his name if it pleases you.
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 18, 2010, 08:03:28 AM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on February 17, 2010, 10:42:57 PM
Bucket: Better record next year, Jags or Gators?
Gators, no doubt....I think they'll be down next year but they'll still win 8 games.
Remember that an 8-4 regular seaon is dissapointing in college, yet 10-6 will usually get you in the playoffs in the NFL.
WRONGOOO!!!!
Jaguars 19-0!!!! Book it!
Read 'em and weep!
Quote from: NotNow on February 18, 2010, 10:39:48 AM
OK, OK, don't get your panties in a wad. I didn't realize how important this was to you. Continue to curse his name if it pleases you.
roll eyes
Quote from: buckethead on February 18, 2010, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 18, 2010, 08:03:28 AM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on February 17, 2010, 10:42:57 PM
Bucket: Better record next year, Jags or Gators?
Gators, no doubt....I think they'll be down next year but they'll still win 8 games.
Remember that an 8-4 regular seaon is dissapointing in college, yet 10-6 will usually get you in the playoffs in the NFL.
WRONGOOO!!!!
Jaguars 19-0!!!! Book it!
Read 'em and weep!
I love the optimism!